08-30-2009, 11:03
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Water Purification Tabs and Menstruation
Have any of you guys ever heard of the iodine water purification tabs causing menstruation to start?
I got that question Friday and in 25 years I've never heard of it, but I haven't worked around females a lot.
A point in the direction of a study or some other evidence would be great.
Many thanks,
Bill
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08-30-2009, 11:25
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I have tried
Google
www.pdrhealth.com (click drugs and supplements at the time of the page)
www.medlineplus.gov
www.nih.gov
used the search terms
OTC PDR --> to get to the otc drug book, nothing
NIH to see if there are any ongoing studies for "iodine water purification tabs"
medline plus that has all the links to most medicne websites for the public..
tried my nursing sites too.. so far nothing..
will talk to the CRNP at work tomorrow and see if she has heard anything.
perhaps I am using the wrong search phrase?
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08-30-2009, 16:37
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Not a medical professional, but IIRC, stress can cause irregular menstruation.
Not that SERE has any of that going on.
TR
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08-31-2009, 10:42
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No, it was sparked by a question from a student. Are you a medic?
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08-31-2009, 11:29
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No, it was sparked by a question from a student. Are you a medic?
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NDD, I am nurse, 30 yrs experience.... (my resume, etc)
I admit to no experience with iodine water purification tabs in the questions sense.
I think, personal opinion here, that there are many many factors that I would, as a woman, look at first before I would blame any tabs for my missed or scanty periods.
The situation that would, in theory, be using such things can bring on missed periods... I can go on and on for the reasons. I did some more research last night and still came up empty. My usual sources, most of which I posted, don't address that odd question.
I have to ask, though, what prompted that question? Did your student give a reason she might be curious?
Mmm, do you have a manufacturer's name for the tabs? Give it to me and I will try to get a reply from them. I know that they are required, by law, to have on hand any and all side effects from thier product available to the public.
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08-31-2009, 13:38
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Excess intake can cause either hyper or hypo-thyroidism symptoms. Hypothyroidism seems to be much more likely in most of the literature. Here are a few articles that cover the process. One of the sites I read did mention menstration changes as a side effect, but the likelyhood was extremely low for short duration exposure. Good luck... damn students and their questions.
http://www.ehponline.org/members/200...cker-full.html
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/d...nt-iodine.html
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08-31-2009, 13:59
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Excess intake can cause either hyper or hypo-thyroidism symptoms. Hypothyroidism seems to be much more likely in most of the literature. Here are a few articles that cover the process. One of the sites I read did mention menstration changes as a side effect, but the likelyhood was extremely low for short duration exposure. Good luck... damn students and their questions.
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well duh! I missed the thryroid option there completely. 
NDD? The Army using the iodine tabs? All the searching I did for "water purification tabs" came up with Chlorine Dioxide in the tabs rather than iodine.
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08-31-2009, 14:26
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No, it was sparked by a question from a student. Are you a medic?
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I'm not a medic. Just in a family with lots of doctors and nurses. I came across this concern when I had a suspected thyroid problem and was listening in on a conversation in the waiting room.
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09-01-2009, 18:19
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I'm not a medic and have never worked with water purification. I am an RN with a BSN and considerable clinical curiosity.
I'm wondering if the questioner was intending to source iodine as a causative agent in precipitating menstruation, or if the questioner was trying to determine if iodine was an effective agent in removing EDC's from water.
The EPA did a study http://www.epa.gov/ppcp/projects/evaluation.html on water purification methods and their efficacy at removing EDCs (endocrine disruptive chemicals). EDC's could have an effect on menarche in females. There are steroids from agricultural use that find their way into the water as well as medication waste but this is generally in urban areas.
Bottom line, I don't believe iodine is an effective filter for EDCs if that is the questioner's "question". A healthy body is basically very good at maintaining a steady level of iodine despite excessive or limited intake. I don't see it as a trigger for hormonal imbalance unless the subject already has a problem.
Just my observations, YMMV. 
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09-01-2009, 18:52
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Civilian "Iodine" tabs
My bottle of Civilian "Iodine" tabs reads
"Tetraglycine Hydroperiodide....16.7%
.Other ingredients.....................83.7%
Each Tablet contains 6.68% Titratable Iodine..."
Only cautions on the inner lable are not to eat it and wash hands before handling anything you put in your mouth. If swallowed sip water and call the local poison control number.
Standard instructions - two tabs per quart, a loose cap, shake and wait 30 minutes.
The second bottle that removes the iodine taste is listed as "Active Ingredient - Asorbic Acid 45 mg per tablet.
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09-01-2009, 19:03
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The effects of either too much iodine or too little idoine on the human body are well documented and must always be considered. 
Richard's $.02 
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09-01-2009, 20:03
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The effects of either too much iodine or too little idoine on the human body are well documented and must always be considered.
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What the hell? You're a Bravo aren't you?
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09-01-2009, 20:05
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Originally Posted by HowardCohodas
I'm not a medic. Just in a family with lots of doctors and nurses. I came across this concern when I had a suspected thyroid problem and was listening in on a conversation in the waiting room.
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Ok, I forgive you. You need to read the special rules for this forum. Also just for future reference, there is no need to assume with me. I post exactly what I mean.
Have a nice day.
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He knows only The Cause.
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09-01-2009, 20:06
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Thanks Jawbreaker.
Don't we have a endocryn...endocrino...thyroid doctor on here?
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