comparison remington 700p to 5r milspec

[cs49]

I introduced myself a while back, I pretty much just read when i'm here, anyways I would like a bit of advice on a purchase i'm making soon. The guys at the gun shops in my area are not much help in answering my questions, and i've done a good amount of research but i don't have all the info i want and I feel this is a good resource. My question is this: What is the difference between a basic Remington 700p and the 5r milspec model? I only care about the action and barrel as I'm planning on using a different stock. i know the 5r comes with the 1 in 11.25 milspec barrel, and a low end h&s stock but what is the difference in the action?, or is it smarter to just buy the inexpensive 700p and drop it in a decent stock? I also looked at the new tactical 700 but it seems to be the same thing as the 5r sans stock. Any help I can get from people who know I would greatly appreciate. If I had a bigger budget I would just get a sako trg22

thanks

[The Reaper]

I don't know where you are getting your model designations, but Remington catalogs neither of the variants you listed in their consumer, military, or LE product lines.

There is a Model 700, which comes in a Varmint and a Police version, the Custom Shop M-40, and the M24 military rifle.

Last time I checked, 5R was a type of rifling, not a weapon.

In all of your research, have you found this site?

http://www.remington.com/products/fi...les/model_700/

Good luck.

TR

[cs49]

I was checking prices of various guns and I came across this "5r milspec" on this online store: http://www.snipercountrypx.com/pc-49...stock-now.aspx seems to be some kind of limited production model. at the website they call it the "r5" and the "5r" I don't know which is correct. It just caught my attention because it says it comes with the same barrel as the m24 sws, and I assume that's pretty good stuff. When i said 700p I was referring to the 700 police model. This is the model 700 xcr long range tactical: http://www.remington.com/tactical/tactical_rifles.asp That is where I got all my info sir. Thanks for replying

[The Reaper]

That 5R does not appear to be a Remington cataloged rifle, which means that someone is pulling the barrels and replacing them for SC.com to sell. "5R" is a specific type of rifling that has less sharp profiles on the lands, you can google that for yourself.

Further, the ad does not seem to say what you think it does. The text reads "the same type rifling used in the M-24 sniper rifles". That is like saying that a Yugo has the same type of gasoline internal combustion engine as an AMG Mercedes. It isn't quite the same item, just a similar type rifling.

The Rem LTR is not a bad rifle. The trigger will suck, the barrel may or may not shoot well, and the chamber will have too much freebore. That is mainly due to litigation and is all correctable by a good smith. It can be made to outshoot the Sako for a lot less money. There is nothing wrong with the H-S stock, I have one on a Rem 700 PSS in .308 that will hold under .5 MOA with good ammo. I am not a fan of the Bell and Carlson stocks though.

Frankly, unless you have some significant trigger time, the money is better spent on ammo and practice than on high end gear and gadgets.

TR

[cs49]

Yeah, I was wrong, same type not same item, thanks for the advice, much appreciated.

[kgoerz]

The guys at the gun shops in my area are not much help in answering my questions,

Unless you know them personally. Gun Stores are trying to make a sale. What they have in stock is going to be equal or better then what your looking for. I always have the same frame of mind in Gun Stores as I do in Auto Dealerships.
There is great knowledge on this site and other similar web sites concerning weapons. Notice I only said weapons. If you find the same answer or data multiple times on the web. It's probably good to go. I have been researching information about modifying my FAL. It took time, but I finally got it straight. I came across some really bad advice doing this research, scary.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

Unless you know them personally. Gun Stores are trying to make a sale. What they have in stock is going to be equal or better then what your looking for. I always have the same frame of mind in Gun Stores as I do in Auto Dealerships.
There is great knowledge on this site and other similar web sites concerning weapons. Notice I only said weapons. If you find the same answer or data multiple times on the web. It's probably good to go. I have been researching information about modifying my FAL. It took time, but I finally got it straight. I came across some really bad advice doing this research, scary.

Great advice.

I go one further and don't talk to the gun store employees. I know what I want when I arrive, already researched on the web and through weapons "Professionals" not amateurs.


cs49
"The Reaper" is a true weapons Professional. He's forgotten more about weapons than most will ever know/learn. You could not purchase better advice.

Team Sergeant

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

cs49
"The Reaper" is a true weapons Professional. He's forgotten more about weapons than most will ever know/learn. You could not purchase better advice.

Team Sergeant

Naah, I just had great teachers. SF NCOs.

TR

[kgoerz]

The Reaper" is a true weapons Professional. He's forgotten more about weapons than most will ever know/learn. You could not purchase better advice.

Because I am deployed, the Internet is where all my information has come from so far. When I get back to West Hoke County. If he lets me, I definitely want to pick his brain about FAL modifications. That whole Inches and metric thing is killing me
I did find a site dedicated just to the FN FAL, go figure

[82ndtrooper]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

Because I am deployed, the Internet is where all my information has come from so far. When I get back to West Hoke County. If he lets me, I definitely want to pick his brain about FAL modifications. That whole Inches and metric thing is killing me
I did find a site dedicated just to the FN FAL, go figure

Keith,

I feel your pain ! My FAL is an metric version and the gentleman that did my custom stock and grip asked me prior to sending it to him for fitting. I had no idea then, but now I know it's a metric version.

You could email him and ask questions @ eprom@birdman.org

He's usually generous about sending reply's but has recently discontinued his production. Tell him Scott sent you.

[Air.177]

Originally Posted by 82ndtrooper

Keith,

I feel your pain ! My FAL is an metric version and the gentleman that did my custom stock and grip asked me prior to sending it to him for fitting. I had no idea then, but now I know it's a metric version.

You could email him and ask questions @ eprom@birdman.org

He's usually generous about sending reply's but has recently discontinued his production. Tell him Scott sent you.

Is that Birdman like Birdman weapons systems .50 nuke, and gangsta sights Birdman? If so, that's some funny shit.

Good times,
Blake

(Gun Counter Chimp)

[82ndtrooper]

Originally Posted by Air.177

Is that Birdman like Birdman weapons systems .50 nuke, and gangsta sights Birdman? If so, that's some funny shit.

Good times,
Blake

(Gun Counter Chimp)

Yes ! That's him. He lives just a mere walk down the road from me. I've played vollyball with him for years here at our complex. He has been making FAL custom stocks for some time and is one the best men for any FAL questions that I've found. For years we tilted back beers together here at a small pub up the street, but he's been keeping himself fairly scarce lately. I purchased a rifle from him just this past year. Great Guy !!

He also gave a referral to a class III dealer for my purchases for suppressor and machine guns. He's a great guy and loves his big Makaw bird.

SIDE NOTE: He actually told me that he had gotten several emails inquiring about the cost and the installation for the "Gangsta" sights. What a bunch of dip shits.

[kgoerz]

Keith,

I feel your pain ! My FAL is an metric version and the gentleman that did my custom stock and grip asked me prior to sending it to him for fitting. I had no idea then, but now I know it's a metric version.

You could email him and ask questions @ eprom@birdman.org

I will write something up and email him. Dropping your name of course. OK whats the deal with the Gansta site, or is it on here?

[82ndtrooper]

Originally Posted by kgoerz

I will write something up and email him. Dropping your name of course. OK whats the deal with the Gansta site, or is it on here?

He had a mock picture of tritium sights on the right side of the slide of a Glock 17 that he labeled "Gangsta Sights" The pic was on his websight along with some other crazy things that people actually believed he was manufacturing. It was his strange sense of humor, but some idiots actually wanted them on their Glocks.

I'd better get back on topic before I get in trouble..............Remington 700 ?

[one-zero]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

cs49
"The Reaper" is a true weapons Professional. He's forgotten more about weapons than most will ever know/learn. You could not purchase better advice.

Team Sergeant

All good SF men are 18B's at heart...