06-04-2004, 20:11
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That one's going to leave a mark. LOL
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Inside joke with Guy.
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06-04-2004, 20:14
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I know. LOL
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
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06-04-2004, 21:52
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wasn't trying to cause a stir with the medic no sniper thing fellas...just what CW3 Brit taught us and the same explaination followed once I was on a team. If I am dicked up...it won't be the first time.
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06-04-2004, 22:01
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wasn't trying to cause a stir with the medic no sniper thing fellas...
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No such thing......good conversation
I, including myself have 6 snipers on my team. With 2 M24s, an M21, MK 14, and Barrett SWS......that leaves only one guy without the long gun......
I choose to the opportunity control 5 gunners rather than deny one of my guys the opportunity to shoot due to MOS....
Now, if we were talking machine guns........well........I gues I can alway trump them......
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06-05-2004, 01:45
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Top...If I have to unass a vehicle...
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Guy, I think I'm missing something.....
Do you really agree that an 18D should stay out of the fight unil aid is needed?
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to come get YOU! Someone or something is getting SHOT!
That's why we teach...
Self aid, then...
Buddy aid and everyone carries a blowout kit.
If an 18D runs out there and gets hit,...who is there to provide medical attention? Especially when you only have one medical person assigned to a team of six guys.
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06-05-2004, 08:55
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Right on, were on the same page....
I told you I thought I'd misunderstood your post
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06-05-2004, 11:43
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How does being an 18D, in a gunfight, relate to the Law of Land Warfare with respects to medical personel? Do you automatically lose that status if you choose to, or are ordered to offensively engage the enemy?
Granted, not many of our enemies today play by the rules anyways, but how is that aspect of things handled?
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06-05-2004, 12:12
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How does being an 18D, in a gunfight, relate to the Law of Land Warfare with respects to medical personel? Do you automatically lose that status if you choose to, or are ordered to offensively engage the enemy?
Granted, not many of our enemies today play by the rules anyways, but how is that aspect of things handled?
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It has little relevance. Soldier First. We don't wear the red cross armband any longer or the "helmet target".
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"I have hung out in dangerous places a lot over the years, from combat zones to biker bars, and it is the weak, the unaware, or those looking for it, that usually find trouble.
Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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06-08-2004, 07:59
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Personally...
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Originally posted by Footmobile
How does being an 18D, in a gunfight, relate to the Law of Land Warfare with respects to medical personel? Do you automatically lose that status if you choose to, or are ordered to offensively engage the enemy?
Granted, not many of our enemies today play by the rules anyways, but how is that aspect of things handled?
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Never gave it much thought, then again...never thought about it at all.
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06-08-2004, 08:35
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Good thread, guys.
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06-17-2004, 13:47
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Laws of Land Warfare
Furthermore, we don't get the "Med"category ID card.
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02-16-2007, 15:53
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18D Ethical Issue
When an 18D beats the living shit out of someone, is he then required to administer medical treatment?
There's no law against creating one's own graphic training aid for hip pocket training.
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02-16-2007, 16:35
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Guys going to be in the fight, unless the other guy has a grill full of gold teeth! 
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02-16-2007, 16:56
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<cussword cussword>You<cussword cussword> or I'll <cussword cussword> to <cussword cussword>..... <cussword cussword> <cussword cussword>
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02-16-2007, 19:57
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<cussword cussword>You<cussword cussword> or I'll <cussword cussword> to <cussword cussword>..... <cussword cussword> <cussword cussword>
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I miss guy, He isn't as high profile around here as he used to be, Too bad.
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