10-04-2005, 08:45
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Unfortunately I don't have a Kimber in my hands.
First question would be, FTF, means failure to feed? or failure to fire. It sounds like feed. One item that is nice to have is a case gauge. I had a friend with a Mac 10, and it had a feeding issue. It was a Hybrid that he used in full auto competitions. The FTF was from a combination of problems that added up to a FTF. His reloads, every now and then was not full case resized and failed to drop freely into the case gauge. That and several other small problems seemed to caused enough of a resistance to the overall feeding process and the pistol FTF.
Straight neck cartridges have a inherent problem in feeding that bottle necks do not. The case lip, on straight cases, can cause resistance to the over all feeding process. Check the ramp too. Take the barrel out and drop a round in and see how it fits. Compare how the magazine aligns in the well and to ramp, with other magazines.
It is worth while to make dummy rounds for checking the feeding cycle of a firearm.
Your problem may not be one problem but it could be combination of small problems that when combined will cause a FTF as with my friend with a MAC 10.
Maybe take your pistol to a competent smith. He may see/feel/hear something that you maybe missing.
Does the Kimber have a Free Floating firing pin. I think it does but don't remember. Again, I don't have a Kimber. Generally free floating firing pins are design not to have a inertia discharge when the pistol is dropped on the hammer. Some gun manufactures over make safeties for legal reasons. Personally I like simple designs (less to go wrong).
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10-05-2005, 16:16
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Another thought I would like to add, is bullet design. On steeper feed ramps truncated bullets may cause an occasional FTF. RN FMJs seem to feed best.
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10-13-2005, 18:47
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happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me...
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3...warrior1nk.jpg
tag still on it, don't even know if it works yet...
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10-13-2005, 22:51
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Happy Birthday.
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He knows only The Cause.
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10-14-2005, 08:32
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I finally was able to get my hands on a Warrior at a local shop the other day and I want one more than ever now. I have however been reading about folks having issues with the metal injection molded (MIM) parts on them. Slide stops, safeties, etc. One guy even posted a pic of a brand new one with a broken slide stop. Are these isolated reports or something more?
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10-14-2005, 09:39
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Kimber Chamber
Serpent5XX - if it was a failure to feed, an overly tight chamber may be the culprit. Kimbers have been known to have those. I was using a loaner Kimber at Rogers' Shooting School, which Bill had to open up with a finish reamer because of that.
re: the price. The SA Operator's (MC Operator, not the TRP, which has a bull barrel) MSRP is $1,218. You can probably get a better deal if you shop around/haggle for it.
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10-14-2005, 13:55
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Serpent5XX-
Kimbers seem to be built pretty tight. A friend of mine got one that was effectively a pump-action for the first 200 rounds; after 1500 it ran fine.
If you still have a problem after breaking it in, you might want to consider checking the tune on the extractor. I had a similar feeding problem when I got my P14, it ended up being a poorly tuned extractor.
(I've thrown in a picture of my P14, I use fine grit skate tape on the grips and front strap)
Last edited by mike_m; 10-14-2005 at 19:32.
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10-14-2005, 19:12
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There is a NIB Kimber Warrior on sale for $1000 on Louder Than Words... 
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10-14-2005, 23:03
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There is a NIB Kimber Warrior on sale for $1000 on Louder Than Words... |
That's too much IMHO
AJC Sport Shop
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10-24-2005, 13:16
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Originally Posted by skibum
Serpent5XX - if it was a failure to feed, an overly tight chamber may be the culprit. Kimbers have been known to have those. I was using a loaner Kimber at Rogers' Shooting School, which Bill had to open up with a finish reamer because of that.
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had a problem with my warrior with failure to go into battery when i first got it. the chamber was REAL tight. took a close look and on the inside of the chamber was a flat spot, RIGHT under the '.45 Auto' stamp on the hood that was causing the round to stick. took care of that and it's been running like a champ since. i'd guess that when kimber put the stamp on the hood, the chamber was empty instead of having an insert support it from the inside (i have no idea if that's normal practice).
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10-24-2005, 19:36
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you dissapoint... You didn't even ask if you could have it. LOL
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