09-23-2005, 18:05
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You know, I saw that same episode of Mail Call (I caught it on reruns when I came home from work one morning and couldn't sleep right away).
The Gunny really showed his ass in that episode. Not only did he screw up what has already been mentioned, he also referred to the Ruger MKII that he fired as a "silenced .22 Luger."
It is very dissapointing when he does firearms related bits as he frequently demonstrates that while he has a wealth of common tactical knowledge, he can't find his ass with both hands when it comes to guns.
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09-23-2005, 18:34
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Originally Posted by cszakolczai
Ok thank you sir, R Lee made it sound like the man who was showing him the suppressor was the man who created it. He was talking about the inside of it and how the gas is made to go through a maze where it than escapes out of the barrel at a slower rate. Sorry for the mix up.
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I know R. Lee, or can say I have met him a few times, and he is a hell of a great guy, but we all have our limitations and areas of expertise.
Your description could be Hiram Maxim for all that description.
TR
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09-23-2005, 19:29
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Quick question so I can understand this thread better. When measuring db is it always at the muzzle?
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09-23-2005, 21:07
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This is from a demo this week.
Runs fine on a M-249 SAW, this was the remainder of the second SAW ammo pack. Helps hold the muzzle down and reduces recoil, but speeds up the cyclic rate to about 900 rpms on the Normal setting, and 1200 rpm on Adverse.
Let it rip. No bobbles, suppressor or SAW.
Enjoy.
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09-24-2005, 09:28
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Wow thats pretty impressive.
one more question, Why is the surefire suppresor so good? Is it because its all new and revolutionary? Or is it because they just worked out the little things and worried about detail and made it just a little bit better?
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09-24-2005, 09:41
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Originally Posted by cszakolczai
Wow thats pretty impressive.
one more question, Why is the surefire suppresor so good? Is it because its all new and revolutionary? Or is it because they just worked out the little things and worried about detail and made it just a little bit better?
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Chris,
You can answer your own question by just taking a look at the company. Do you think they would come out with anything less than top notch quality?
I have yet to see Surefire come out with any product that is less than top notch (and no I don't work for them I proudly pay for their merchandise).
As far as the why? I'm sure thats a trade secret.
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09-24-2005, 10:51
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09-24-2005, 11:11
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Originally Posted by cszakolczai
Wow thats pretty impressive.
one more question, Why is the surefire suppresor so good? Is it because its all new and revolutionary? Or is it because they just worked out the little things and worried about detail and made it just a little bit better?
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The theory behind suppressor construction is the same as when Maxim patented the first one.
The materials, more precise manufacturing techniques, fine tuning of the theory through extensive testing, and optimization of design combine to produce a durable, compact, lightweight, effective, and accurate suppressor.
TR
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09-25-2005, 08:49
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Thanks TR,
I just am really fascinated by these suppressors, the things that they can do are just amazing.
Chris
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09-26-2005, 14:48
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I can reiterate what TR said above, Maxim designs have been tested in the recent years and they are good, taking in account the timeframe. Many of the designs following used the principles he worked with. There are though nowadays radically different baffle/element designs that do work exceptionally well.
The advances in small arms designs have brought new requirements to suppressors in the terms of durability in all forms and mounting capability to various types of flash hiders/mounts.
I had the chance to talk with the folks from Surefire at the USAREUR Land Combat Expo 2005 that was held last week and I talked on suppressors in general with Mr. Paul Kim.
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