05-04-2013, 09:31
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
You are in good company, 99.5% of the people that shoot handguns don’t really understand pistol marksmanship. Most understand enough to be very dangerous. (Which makes me happy in some respects; I know the bad guys are relying on pure luck when they start a gunfight…) Yes, I said 99.5%.
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As one of the 99.5 that TS refers to I found this thread to be full of very useful info. The OP goes all the way back to July of 05 and refers to a "neophyte" which upon looking up the definition of neophyte I have determined that I fall within that definition in regards to pistol marksmanship.
I have read all the posts twice and visited the various links that were included and I down loaded the FM 3-23.35. In the near future I will be seeking formal training and a mentor as some of you have suggested.
But in the meantime I have come across a lot of “You Tube” videos that deal with marksmanship, now we all know that “You Tube” is full of a lot of useless videos that contain a lot of erroneous info. As a true neophyte incapable of sorting the wheat from the chaff regarding pistol marksmanship I call upon you all’s expertise as to any “You Tube” videos that you think are worthy of watching. I know they cannot all be worthless. For those of you that have contributed so much to this thread, THANKS!
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05-06-2013, 22:28
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Originally Posted by cbtengr
As one of the 99.5 that TS refers to I found this thread to be full of very useful info. The OP goes all the way back to July of 05 and refers to a "neophyte" which upon looking up the definition of neophyte I have determined that I fall within that definition in regards to pistol marksmanship.
I have read all the posts twice and visited the various links that were included and I down loaded the FM 3-23.35. In the near future I will be seeking formal training and a mentor as some of you have suggested.
But in the meantime I have come across a lot of “You Tube” videos that deal with marksmanship, now we all know that “You Tube” is full of a lot of useless videos that contain a lot of erroneous info. As a true neophyte incapable of sorting the wheat from the chaff regarding pistol marksmanship I call upon you all’s expertise as to any “You Tube” videos that you think are worthy of watching. I know they cannot all be worthless. For those of you that have contributed so much to this thread, THANKS!
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very simple. Run youtube query search on Paul Howe, Dave Harrington, Kyle Lamb, Frank Proctor, etc.
Then find clips of Rogers shooting school stages. Put on big screen tv and compensate for the lack of depth perception. Put a wad of paper in front of ejector if you use M&P or Glock so you don't have to cycle the slide each time. No need to do this if you're using Walther PPQ, SIG DA, HK DA, revolver, etc . Call your shot with each iteration and see if you can run them stages with smooth precision under the time limit.
Then buy a ticket to Arizona to train with the TS
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05-07-2013, 06:16
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very simple. Run youtube query search on Paul Howe, Dave Harrington, Kyle Lamb, Frank Proctor, etc.
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Also look at Panteao Production as Paul Howe, Dave Harrington, Bill Rogers, et al. have collaborated with the production company to produce training course that are available online.
While no replacement for a live fire course with the instructor it can be a good introduction, primer, or refresher.
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05-07-2013, 10:24
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Originally Posted by frostfire
very simple. Run youtube query search on Paul Howe, Dave Harrington, Kyle Lamb, Frank Proctor, etc.
Then find clips of Rogers shooting school stages. Put on big screen tv and compensate for the lack of depth perception. Put a wad of paper in front of ejector if you use M&P or Glock so you don't have to cycle the slide each time. No need to do this if you're using Walther PPQ, SIG DA, HK DA, revolver, etc . Call your shot with each iteration and see if you can run them stages with smooth precision under the time limit.
Then buy a ticket to Arizona to train with the TS 
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09-19-2016, 19:12
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Recently, I purchased 10 -13 round clips to enhance a sale for a Glock 21, I wish to sell.
The clips seemed to have been shaved, or worn to the point, that they can be removed simply by jerking the pistol downward, otherwise they remain in place and load rounds into the chamber.
My question is whether or not this is a positive, with relation to reloading?
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09-19-2016, 20:02
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Originally Posted by Penn
Recently, I purchased 10 -13 round clips to enhance a sale for a Glock 21, I wish to sell.
The clips seemed to have been shaved, or worn to the point, that they can be removed simply by jerking the pistol downward, otherwise they remain in place and load rounds into the chamber.
My question is whether or not this is a positive, with relation to reloading?
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IMHO, a magazine release should retain the mag 100% of the time you want to retain the mag, and release it smoothly, but only when you have positively moved to drop the mag.
If you are indicating that it is not reliably retained and you can inadvertently release the mag, then you have an issue with either the mags, or the mag release or its spring. I would not be comfortable even using those mags for training, much less concealed carry.
There are a bunch of movements that could apparently cause the mag to drop on its own, and that is not functioning as the designer intended, nor is it conducive to a long life.
I would consider the pistol to be unsafe until I either eliminated the mag release or the mags as the problem, and remedied it before selling the weapon to someone else.
TR
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09-21-2016, 00:03
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TR, Thank you.
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