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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Really? Seriously? Do you think you're on AR-15.com?

Do we have to ban you?

My apologies team sergeant, won't happen again

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by Brush Okie

I would like to add the only accessories I would have besides the arm brace MIGHT be a red dot. I prefer my firearms basic and simple. All the crap that people hang on their firearms bugs me. Even a scope I prefer basic duplex over anything else. I know how to use a duplex as a range finder if I feel a need for that in a scope.

Lest you want to spend $$$ on brand name, palmetto has a sale going on...
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...arging-handle/
Also IIRC both palmetto and primaryarms.com (solid, Larue-like customer support) have sale for red dot sights
https://www.primaryarms.com/Red_Dot_Sights_s/190.htm

A buddy is building one with Adam Arms piston kit. I'm personally not a fan having 5.56 going through only a few inches of barrel, hence the choice for shorter cartridge with 7.62x39. I also doubt a 5.56 platform would deliver far superior accuracy than my current setup. A 300 Blackout on the other hand....but that's another discussion

[frostfire]

Originally Posted by frostfire

I'm going to group it at 200 yards next

well, didn't have a range finder, but it was between 250 to 300 yards using guestimation of the 100 yards range.
At that distance the silhouette looks like 1/2 the front sight width and the red dot won't give the consistent contrast required for grouping.

1st pic , 4 out of 4 shots on paper, 3 on target, Brown bear HP. Held at head
2nd pic, 3 out of 5 shots on target, 8M3 HP hunting round. Held at COM
3rd pic, 3 out of 5 shots on paper, 2 on target. Silver bear HP. Held at COM
I should have held all at head. The zero is 50/100.

I guess I've found the limit of the user-tool combo. That's beyond minute-of-torso or even minute-of-man group. No bueno.
All in all, not bad for for pushing a 10.5" barrel "pistol" beyond its normal/intended use I bet J. Miculek can do better.

Not only that 8M3 round is super devastating (better than Hornady's), it's probably the most accurate (out of M92)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrS-kya8xVA
Effect on live tissue/hogs: http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/u...pics/1890654/1