03-09-2013, 12:26
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Cork: You might want to also consider a couple of different angles to your problem.
One angle already mentioned is that of the shoulder holster. Being in FL, you could get by with very loose fitting shirts--and you could wear the shoulder rig under your summer weight shirt. I recently bought a shoulder holster due to some lingering hip issues. Andrews custom leather makes a really nice quality shoulder rig. http://www.andrewsleather.com/traditional.htm
One other angle is that you could get a smaller pistol. I carry 1911s, so I understand the angst at the thought of going to something smaller, but that still might make the problem a bit easier to solve. There are lots of high quality, smaller pistols out there.
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03-09-2013, 13:19
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Dale Fricke makes some excellent holsters for AIWB carry (Appendix Inside the Waistband, aka "front carry"). http://dalefrickeholsters.com/products.php
The Zaccheus with a Glock 19 or 26 is surprisingly comfortable and concealable once you're used to it. The Archangel is also comfortable and a bit more consistent in positioning. The "Zack" moves around a good bit, which I like when I'm sitting in the car for a long time - that may be better for being in a wheelchair all day.
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03-09-2013, 14:39
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Cork, you made me put on my thinking cap.  This is something I might think about if I were in your shoes:
http://www.ravenconcealment.com/othe...-neck-holsters
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03-09-2013, 20:15
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I have one of those for a Kel tec p32, not bad with that weight gun but after a few hours, the para cord isn't too comfortable around your neck without a break.....
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03-22-2013, 10:11
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Thanks for your input. I'll give the shoulder holster more thought.
I really appreciate the link - lots of options ther.
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Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott
Cork: You might want to also consider a couple of different angles to your problem.
One angle already mentioned is that of the shoulder holster. Being in FL, you could get by with very loose fitting shirts--and you could wear the shoulder rig under your summer weight shirt. I recently bought a shoulder holster due to some lingering hip issues. Andrews custom leather makes a really nice quality shoulder rig. http://www.andrewsleather.com/traditional.htm
One other angle is that you could get a smaller pistol. I carry 1911s, so I understand the angst at the thought of going to something smaller, but that still might make the problem a bit easier to solve. There are lots of high quality, smaller pistols out there.
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03-22-2013, 10:15
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Thanks, I'll check them out.
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Originally Posted by TFA303
Dale Fricke makes some excellent holsters for AIWB carry
(Appendix Inside the Waistband, aka "front carry"). http://dalefrickeholsters.com/products.php
The Zaccheus with a Glock 19 or 26 is surprisingly comfortable and concealable once you're used to it. The Archangel is also comfortable and a bit more consistent in positioning. The "Zack" moves around a good bit, which I like when I'm sitting in the car for a long time - that may be better for being in a wheelchair all day.
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03-22-2013, 10:21
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Thanks, another great site.
Have you given any more thought to the sheepskin option?
I've been exceptionally pleased to the input and suggestions I've received to this question. Your site is proving to be a great asset.
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[QTE=Team Sergeant;495196]Cork, you made me put on my thinking cap.  This
is something I might think about if I were in your shoes:
http://www.ravenconcealment.com/othe...-neck-holsters[/QUOTE]
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03-22-2013, 10:32
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Damned right, if I'm carrying I sure as hell don't want to be seperated.
As my ability to quickly egress is limited my best defense may be to eject and roll. I definetly want my weapon with me when I reach for it.
Thanks for the link
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03-22-2013, 10:50
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Good link, TS
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FWIW I actually own a couple of these and modified one of them to carry it mounted in my truck so I can easily transition from IWB to open carry while driving. The nice thing about those open rivets is that you can easily bolt them to a console or other solid mount location.
These holsters are tight and crisp, too. There is absolutely ZERO play in them. I've also used this rig, with minor adjustments, while doing outdoor activities and I barely noticed it being there - conceals VERY well.
And on another note, they don't list it as an option, but if you carry a S&W Bodyguard, I know for a fact that they'll make it for you. Just ask for Trek. He took care of me.
Good luck!
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03-22-2013, 12:10
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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick
No joke Cork. While it's not for my personal taste, like I said, I work with at least a dozen professional UC/LEOs that carry a full size SIG in the front of their waistband and sit for hours at a time.
Drawing and presentation from a seated position is very natural from these rigs. So yeah, I'd only say look into it for your own decision making process.
Good luck.
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I know one retired SF member that teaches in Texas that carries this way while driving and sitting. The pistol is accessible even while wearing a seatbelt. Don't dismiss this option out of hand. IIRC Crossbreed might make something that fits your needs. The leather -kydes combination ir pretty confortable to wear all day and in my experience does not chafe. You can trim the leather a little to personalize the fit.
http://crossbreedholsters.com/Append...me,ProductName
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03-22-2013, 12:40
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Just don't get this one.
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03-22-2013, 12:58
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Please tell me that is up for a Darwin award!
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03-22-2013, 14:25
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That's the one I gave my Mother-in-law!
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03-22-2013, 15:15
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Crosbreed Holsters
Cork,
I wear a SuperTuck Deluxe IWB and can adjust it from appendix to small of back to meet the situation and clothing issues I encounter on a daily basis. The holster is made from horsehide so no issues with moisture seeping through and is so comfortable you forget it is there.
I also bought a bedside backup system from them and had a piece of velcro sewn into a ribswear front pack. The holster portion of the back-up is attached to a plastic plate with velcro so I can take the holster off of the plate and put it anywhere I have velcro. Under the dash of my car for one place. I wear this when backpacking. It keeps my pistol on my chest, inside a quick-zip pocket, and readily accessable if I am wearing my pack.
You might want to do a search of the US Concealed Carry Association website and browse their archives. I am at work and the site is blocked, so I cannot provide a link, but I remember an article or two in their magazine specifically addressing needs of folks in wheelchairs and CCW considerations. There might be some useful information there.
Please let us know how things progress so I for one can pass any lessons you learn along to any of my future students in a similar situation.
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03-22-2013, 15:45
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Originally Posted by frog130
Old dog, tell me this is a joke!
I can't imagine placing my weapon in my groin except in a real emergency.
I'd like to say that's because there wouldn't be enough room... but that would be redundant! ( yea, right)
Seriously, I appreciate the suggestions. I will give it a try just to see if it's a viable option for me.
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Cork:
Appendix carry is a very viable option pending on your build and the weapon you are carrying.
I have used it when doing low-vis work as well as concealed carry utilizing a FNS9, XDM9 compact, G26, and 92F (all with tactical lights). IMHO it is the easiest to draw from and is easier to prevent in inadvertent printing as you can easily see how well the weapon remains hidden as opposed to constantly looking in a mirror to address the issue.
I only use kydex holsters though.
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