01-27-2013, 13:49
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Saw Petraeus on CNN this morning saying we don't need assault rifles. Thanks Dave.
BTW Dave, WE don't have any. They just LOOK like assault rifles.
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01-27-2013, 13:57
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Sam Harris Article
Read a pretty good blog/article by Sam Harris entitled The Riddle of the Gun. While I don't agree with some of his points of view, overall he makes several salient arguments.
The Riddle of the Gun
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I am surrounded by otherwise intelligent people who imagine that the ability to dial 911 is all the protection against violence a sane person ever needs.
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01-27-2013, 14:23
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Originally Posted by Utah Bob
Saw Petraeus on CNN this morning saying we don't need assault rifles. Thanks Dave. 
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Says the guy that threw away his career for some pu$$* and gave her (reporter) access to classified info.
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01-27-2013, 16:58
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Originally Posted by koz
Says the guy that threw away his career for some pu$$* and gave her (reporter) access to classified info.
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He's beginning to make a habit of being an ass.
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01-27-2013, 20:04
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Here's A Case For High Capacity Magazines
Take a look at the attached. After you read this ask yourself which would you rather have - a .38 revolver or a semi-automatic rifle with a high capacity magazine?
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01-27-2013, 20:17
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They call black bear cubs "grizzlies" up there?
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01-27-2013, 20:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trapper John
Take a look at the attached. After you read this ask yourself which would you rather have - a .38 revolver or a semi-automatic rifle with a high capacity magazine?
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The story that you posted is a little exaggerated from the original/actual story
Snopes - Bear
Bear 2
Alaska.com - Bear
Bear.org
Regardless of the actual story, something that big in the woods with me is always going to be argument enough for hi-cap magazines in my book...
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01-29-2013, 12:25
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Guns in Church Bill Passes Senate in Arkastan
http://www.sfgate.com/default/articl...ll-4229640.php
Arkastan's Congress is controlled by the Republicans now. First time in 100 years.
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — The Arkansas Senate voted Monday to allow concealed handguns in churches and other places of worship, rejecting complaints from a handful of Democratic lawmakers that it undermines the idea of the institutions being sanctuaries from violence.
By a 28-4 vote, the Republican-controlled Senate approved the legislation that would leave it up to individual places of worship to decide whether to allow concealed handguns inside. Churches are currently listed as places where concealed handguns are prohibited.
The proposal is among several aimed at loosening the state's firearms restrictions, including a bill filed Monday that would keep secret the list of Arkansas residents permitted to carry concealed handguns.
Sen. Bryan King, the sponsor of the guns in church bill, said the measure would help rural churches far from police or law enforcement that can't afford to hire security.
"This just gives each church the ability to handle their own security," King, R-Green Forest, told senators before the vote.
Of the 49 states that allow concealed handguns, Arkansas is among 10 that specifically prohibit them from churches, according to the National Rifle Association. Past efforts to allow guns in churches have failed in the Legislature, but gun rights advocates believe they're poised to change that now that Republicans are in control.
Eight Democrats voted for the measure in the Senate. Democratic Gov. Mike Beebe has indicated he'll likely sign the measure into law should it reach his desk.
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01-29-2013, 12:39
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....rejecting complaints from a handful of Democratic lawmakers that it undermines the idea of the institutions being sanctuaries from violence.
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Because a whacked out mass murderer doesn't.
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01-29-2013, 12:41
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Originally Posted by Badger52
Because a whacked out mass murderer doesn't.
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lol Mrs. Dusty just told me about something she read stating that Obama's security should put up their guns and hold up "Gun-Free Zone" signs, 'cause everybody in one of those zones is safe.
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01-29-2013, 13:13
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In following with the "in common use" opinion of the SCOTUS, could it not be argued that the AWB ban be lifted for M4's? Maybe we should be arguing for less gun control instead of fighting to keep things as they are. That way we can 'concede' in the end for no change and the libs will feel like they won.
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01-29-2013, 13:37
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I have carried a weapon into my synagogue since I am old enough to legally be able to carry concealed. I always noted as a kid that any synagogue we ever went to for the high holy days, there would always be a police presence, right in front. As you get older, you begin to understand why......
My rabbi always knew I was armed, and trained in medical emergencies which seemed to always happen when I was around.
Places of worship, schools, offices, hospitals are NOT and HAVE NEVER been immune to violent acts. Idiots walk into hospitals armed with weapons and have shot/stabbed staff, you read about most but not all incidences in the news.
I remain a lawfully armed physician, jew, father, husband, uncle, cousin, nephew, friend, tactical medical provider and citizen of the United States of America, 24/7.
I depend on no one to come to my aid in a manner which would deescalate a situation, anywhere, anytime, that makes me safe all of the time (unless one of the QP's is with me, especially TS!!)
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just saw where a doc was shot in a Newport Beach Medical office TODAY.....I am not giving up my weapons!
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01-29-2013, 14:13
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Need to keep getting the word out on this sicko. He'll get a pass as he a dem and absolutely NO standards apply to dems, but we need to keep howling about this sick, twisted, demented pedarist.
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01-29-2013, 14:16
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I'll give up my 2d amendment rights when Obama gives up his 13th amendment rights. fair trade.....
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01-29-2013, 17:10
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Has anyone read this article yet?
Choice of Mary Jo White to Head SEC Puts Fox In Charge of Hen House
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...house-20130125
I wonder if the recent gun control narrative being pushed by cooperatively aligned mass media......
(whose concentration of ownership in the last generation is also cause for considerable concern:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_c..._United_States )
.....is effectively a "win-win" for entrenched interests?
If gun control measures succeed...awesome(for entrenched interests)....the noose tightens.
If gun control measures fail....awesome(for entrenched interests).....the distraction worked and the genuinely newsworthy stuff worth expending limited public political energy on has already been blasted through without notice.
The complete and total lack of the 2nd Amendment's role in deterring tyranny in the mass media gun control narrative, combined with the likes of the SEC effectively being owned by those it's meant to police are just two examples of why I'm thinking along these lines.
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