01-17-2013, 07:20
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"Weapon guide for the uninformed" at link below:
http://news.investors.com/photopopup.aspx?id=640963
(and average homicides or deaths - per year - per category)
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01-17-2013, 07:36
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lol Good link. Frustrating.
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01-24-2013, 08:23
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They either don't want this to pass, are taking an extreme position prior to "compromising", or they may simply be delusional.
Even if something like this did pass, attempts at enforcement would crumble the union.
http://p.washingtontimes.com/blog/gu...ming-thursday/
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01-24-2013, 08:32
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They will be happy with the national background check.
Because with that they will create a database (legally or illegally) of owners and firearms. With that, whenever confiscation (in their minds) becomes necessary (or a convenient crisis occurs) will be easy-peasy. (They won't have to do it, the 'little' people will have that job).
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01-24-2013, 08:43
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They will be happy with the national background check.
Because with that they will create a database (legally or illegally) of owners and firearms. With that, whenever confiscation (in their minds) becomes necessary (or a convenient crisis occurs) will be easy-peasy. (They won't have to do it, the 'little' people will have that job).
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Enforcement would be difficult.
Printz v US will impede their efforts.
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01-24-2013, 09:01
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"Please sir, I want some more..." Tin foil that is...
I wasn't quite sure where to put this due to several threads on the subject, but has anyone else heard anything about this?
Obama Asks Military Leaders If They Will “Fire On US Citizens”
To even think that the administration would issue an order to fire on "non-compliant dissidents" is appalling. However in the current climate with this bill going to vote, says it just may become an event in the not too distant future. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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01-24-2013, 09:14
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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen
They either don't want this to pass, are taking an extreme position prior to "compromising", or they may simply be delusional.
Even if something like this did pass, attempts at enforcement would crumble the union.
http://p.washingtontimes.com/blog/gu...ming-thursday/
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One has to wonder if a wave of mass peaceful civil disobedience is on the horizon?
Will folks register? Will folks dispose of otherwise lawfully acquired weapons and magazines...??
If this Feinstein bill moves forward as introduced - in addition to fighting to terminate it politically - I wonder if citizens will examine the duty, consequence and wisdom of following the tradition of peaceful civil disobedience that has contributed to - and will continue to contribute to - this nation's founding and greatness. This tradition ranges from the Boston Tea Party - to the Underground Railroad - to the civil rights movement. Perhaps, others - in an abundance of caution - are reviewing the duty, wisdom and consequences relating to disobeying unlawful orders.
The good, law abiding gun owners (and authorities) in NY have less than a year to formulate and execute their legal response -- and moral response -- to defacto confiscation and relative disarmament.
Tic Toc Tic Toc
Interesting times.
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01-24-2013, 09:25
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01-24-2013, 09:38
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I wasn't quite sure where to put this due to several threads on the subject ...
Obama Asks Military Leaders If They Will “Fire On US Citizens” .
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Heeeeeey Maaaaaan, how do you spell the sound of someone taking a HUGE hit off some seriously choice weed?
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01-24-2013, 09:48
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From your cited " source":
"I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not”. Those who will not are being removed,” Garrow wrote on his Facebook page, later following up the post by adding the man who told him is, “one of America’s foremost military heroes,” whose goal in divulging the information was to “sound the alarm.”
https://www.facebook.com/jim.garrow....51209214442015
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01-24-2013, 09:55
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Originally Posted by BryanK
I wasn't quite sure where to put this due to several threads on the subject, but has anyone else heard anything about this?
Obama Asks Military Leaders If They Will “Fire On US Citizens”
To even think that the administration would issue an order to fire on "non-compliant dissidents" is appalling. However in the current climate with this bill going to vote, says it just may become an event in the not too distant future. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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Why do you think there are SpecOps guardposts set up at all the known KGC cache sites, now?
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01-24-2013, 09:58
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Heeeeeey Maaaaaan, how do you spell the sound of someone taking a HUGE hit off some seriously choice weed?
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K-a-t-r-i-n-a???
Having participated in civil disturbance training over the years, as I'm sure many here have, was ROE/EOF not part of that training? Up to and including deadly force? Is it not plausible that the current POTUS would " weed" out military advisors/leaders if they refused to participate in the forceful disarmament of law-biding citizens? I realize infowars isn't the best source, but it brings up a valid issue to be discussed. The same topic in question is also available elsewhere.
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01-24-2013, 10:31
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K-a-t-r-i-n-a???
Having participated in civil disturbance training over the years, as I'm sure many here have, was ROE/EOF not part of that training? Up to and including deadly force? Is it not plausible that the current POTUS would "weed" out military advisors/leaders if they refused to participate in the forceful disarmament of law-biding citizens? I realize infowars isn't the best source, but it brings up a valid issue to be discussed. The same topic in question is also available elsewhere.
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Finally! Katrina was Obama's fault. I knew it!
Yeah deadly force is sometimes covered but it sure wasn't covered in NO. CAANG sent folks (as did many other NG) none took weapons.
Plausible? That the President is purging the top brass? With such a bizarre litmus test? How would you ask that question?
Infowars is less than not the best source. And the point isn't valid. Did it show up in the Inquirer, too. Put the shovel down.
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01-24-2013, 11:23
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Finally! Katrina was Obama's fault. I knew it!
Yeah deadly force is sometimes covered but it sure wasn't covered in NO. CAANG sent folks (as did many other NG) none took weapons.
Plausible? That the President is purging the top brass? With such a bizarre litmus test? How would you ask that question?
Infowars is less than not the best source. And the point isn't valid. Did it show up in the Inquirer, too. Put the shovel down.
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Come on now, the Inquirer has broken some pretty interesting stories over the years, Good ol JOhn Edwards comes to mind.
With that being said, the use of "anonymous" sources pretty much says all I need to know on said subject. If there is a retired GO out there that KNOWS this is going on, but prefers to use his friends to get the word out there instead of standing up him/herself is not a leader and is just trying to stir up shit.
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01-24-2013, 12:00
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...Put the shovel down.
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The shovel is down, and so is my spoon. My cornflakes have mysteriously developed the aroma of urine
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