08-18-2012, 12:42
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Question about the original USAF Ravens (not the UAV)
Gentlemen,
My Uncle was a Raven during & after the Vietnam War. He recently passed away and I've always been curious as to what Ravens did. I asked him a few times and he would only speak vaguely of it. After using the great search button in the sky (google) and the PS.com search button I found little information on the USAF Ravens.
To make a short story long... I see many seasoned Quite Professionals on this Forum and I am asking if you had any experiences with the original Ravens who flew over Vietnam and Laos?
I have no desire to violate OPSEC.
I realize my question does not directly pertain to SF.
Thank you for your service and sacrifices and time.
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08-18-2012, 12:49
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I thought this was quite good: The Ravens by Christopher Robbins (Jan 1995) when I read it.
There is a 3rd Edition out now: The Ravens: The True Story of a Secret War by Christopher Robbins (Jun 1, 2012)
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08-18-2012, 13:42
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Originally Posted by MR2
I thought this was quite good: The Ravens by Christopher Robbins (Jan 1995) when I read it.
There is a 3rd Edition out now: The Ravens: The True Story of a Secret War by Christopher Robbins (Jun 1, 2012)
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Wow.
Google.
Who knew?
TR
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08-18-2012, 16:20
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Google 'Long Tieng'... That should get you started....
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08-18-2012, 20:12
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To get you started try this, but as noted try google next time.
http://www.airspacemag.com/military-...on/ravens.html
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08-21-2012, 06:21
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Good read, thanks. For a stick & rudder pilot I imagine that was livin' large.
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08-21-2012, 10:43
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Also something to note- The Ravens had to resign from USAF to take this assignment... More of that "Plausible Deniability" I suppose...
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08-21-2012, 11:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mark46th
Also something to note- The Ravens had to resign from USAF to take this assignment... More of that "Plausible Deniability" I suppose...
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But they got to fly around with bears and anteaters in the cockpit! Huh, yeah umm-hmm. Readin' the whole article now, arentcha? (Longrange1947, post #5)
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08-21-2012, 12:31
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Also something to note- The Ravens had to resign from USAF to take this assignment... More of that "Plausible Deniability" I suppose...
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Same as Air America. Also a lot of our terps in Thailand were angling for controller duty for the extra pay, double I believe. Been a while though.
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09-11-2012, 14:07
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Thanks LR
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Love articles about pilots. ( They were a different breed ) Way under appreciated by those who never needed them.
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