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[Dusty]

Originally Posted by MadDogG

But I don't know, we'll see.

So, having your face plastered all over facebook, and myspace, and twitter, and blah, blah, any number of countless social networking sites is a bad thing. I get that absolutely. But I don't understand how the whole t.v. thing works out. Years ago, I remember a show on the History channel about U.S.Army Special Forces, (it was great by the way!), and it had to do with the Robin Sage Excersise. Now I haven't been able to find that video in digital format or vcr, for that matter, and would love to have it, but the point is, I still remember what several of those guys look like. I am relatively sure I would recognize at least 1, 2 maybe even 3 of them in a line up. 2 for sure. Especially since I have found a few clips of that video showing at least one of those individuals. Now those guys can't all be retired, or well....dead, for lack of a better easier way to say it guys. SOrry. I figure that's probably a bad subject. But you understand my point. Then you have shows like Surviving the Cut....come on! Not all of those gentlemen I am sure wanted there faces on t.v., but I can't help but think maybe they didn't have much say in the matter. I don't know how that works. My point being, I can download surviving the cut, I can memorize a few faces if I so chose to do so. Not all of those guys will make it through the q, but if I have a computer, I could conceivably get there pictures and start putting them into the hands of my guys,( if I was a foreign intelligence officer...I would imagine), and just keep a look out for them or troll the internet. RIght? So those guys on these t.v. shows, are they purposefully screwed out of ever doing the more clandestine stuff? I mean, I am just one man, but millions watch those types of shows, and I would think that would give them more exposure. So I guess my question now that I have finally gotten it out is, "ARE THEY SCREWED? And was it purposefully done? OR are they just actors, portraying real people?" I mean I would think that would pose a greater threat to national security than who Donny was screwing last night at the freaking bar being posted on facebook. Also, what about these guys who's family members are bringing video camera's to the GB graduation, and then posting not only video of the guys graduation, but his full name!!!!???? NOW THAT TO ME!! IS just wTF??? ANd the National Geographic programs, and sixty minutes where oh yeah they are wearing sunglasses, right, a good imagination and you can pretty much yeah, who didn't know that batman was actuall bruce wayne in the sixties t.v. series right? Well, I mean this is kind of a serious question I think, because if you don't have a choice to be on one of these shows....then does it really matter? And if you do have a choice....what qp would volunteer for that knowing the danger involved? Wow, sorry guys this has lead me down a path of a lot of questions. Troubling ones for me. Thanks in advance, for everything so far, and for an answer if you choose to give me one. I am really confused on this part of the whole opsec stuff. It's not clicking to me how facebook vs. being plastered on t.v. would be any different. Why would the military allow it if it would limit some of there soldiers capacity to do there job? I know that the SF community is pretty small comparatively. The loss of a few good men, for a pr opportunity just doesn't quite.....well sit well, but it doesn't quite sound like something that would be done either. Help me understand guys. Please.

It's S.O.P to have your features altered via plastic surgery after you're filmed. That's the reason our medics receive such extensive training, and why our wives sometimes don't recognize us after a mission.

[scooter]

Originally Posted by Dusty

It's S.O.P to have your features altered via plastic surgery after you're filmed. That's the reason our medics receive such extensive training, and why our wives sometimes don't recognize us after a mission.

Ah yes.... I remember my first facial reconstruction like it was yesterday. Or maybe it was yesterday. I forget. The whole thing...changes..... a man. You understand.

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by scooter

Ah yes.... I remember my first facial reconstruction like it was yesterday. Or maybe it was yesterday. I forget. The whole thing...changes..... a man. You understand.

Are you sure you're not talking about your vulvodynia treatment?

[scooter]

Originally Posted by Dusty

Are you sure you're not talking about your vulvodynia treatment?

Hey, I got sand in there. Not funny, Ok?

[Dusty]

Originally Posted by scooter

Hey, I got sand in there. Not funny, Ok?

[lonetlan]

Good thing about having a "one off" name; I took care of this pretty easily.

Bad thing about having a "one off" name; anything I've done is easy to find.

Better to be in the dark looking into the light, than being in the light looking in the dark.

Thanks TS and the others.

[MVP]

I remember the Stars and Stripes coming to Tolz in the 80's wanting to do a story and shoot photos of an A-Team. The CSM (former Son Tay raider) tasked HHC, S/S got photos of one of the lesser known A-Teams composed of the admin specialists, cooks and mechanics. One nice off-shoot was that the HHC team was more diverse than those in A, B, or C companies.

MVP

[Surgicalcric]

Originally Posted by MVP

I remember the Stars and Stripes coming to Tolz in the 80's wanting to do a story and shoot photos of an A-Team. The CSM (former Son Tay raider) tasked HHC, S/S got photos of one of the lesser known A-Teams composed of the admin specialists, cooks and mechanics. One nice off-shoot was that the HHC team was more diverse than those in A, B, or C companies.

MVP

Its (not so) funny how times and things change.

Today team guys have their picture posted, in uniform all over the place like its the thing to do. I suppose 10 years of mostly DA centric operations will make one lose focus on what SF was originally stood up to do and how having one's face or other distinguishing features and markings visible over a wide array of mediums could affect that mission...

[1stSFGmechanic]

These threads work. Just deleted my facebook.

[ZonieDiver]

Ah yes.... I remember my first facial reconstruction like it was yesterday.

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

Can't tell if you are being serious here Sir or not (as no pink font), although I am guessing this post is sarcasm...? Assuming so, would those QPs shown on television be unable to go on covert missions and thus have been inadverdently cheated by the filming of their training...?

Without revealing too many "secret squirrel" techniques, the procedures used by SF Medics to complete the surgeries briefly mentioned by Dusty were "outed" in the movie "Face Off" - with Travolta and Slater. (I went in thinking it was a hockey movie.)

Not only does "exchanging faces" with another result in a new face, complete with hairstyle, etc. - it also miraculously gives you the body of the other person. Thereby, each person is totally different, and unrecognizable - even to their spouse.

(Pink font not used because I reallllllllllly didn't think it was needed.)

[Surgicalcric]

Originally Posted by Broadsword2004

...would those QPs shown on television be unable to go on covert missions and thus have been inadverdently cheated by the filming of their training...?

The Army doesnt have a database where they track all the guys who have had their faces plastered across various media outlets IOT disqualify them from certain missions. However an SF soldier who knows his face has been scattered across the www should advise those making covert assignments that him being placed in such a position could jeopardize the mission and the other men associated with it.

Its all fun and games until you are trying to convince someone in a foreign country that you are someone other than who they have managed to find photos/video of on the net...

my .02...

Crip

[Diablo]

will really make maintaining your www PERSEC a near impossibility. Give google another few years (or months) and the ability to search by using an image of a face will become as common as today's text searches.
But maybe we have found a use for the posers- a disinfo tool!

[greenberetTFS]

Originally Posted by scooter;419178[B

Hey, I got sand in there. Not funny, Ok?[/B]

scooter,

Vulvodynia is a chronic pain syndrome that affects the vulvar area and occurs without an identifiable cause or visible pathology categorized in the ICD-9 group 625—specifically ICD-9 625.7.......... which is for pain and other disorders of the female genital organs..........

Hmmmmmm..........

Big Teddy

[PedOncoDoc]

Originally Posted by greenberetTFS

scooter,

Vulvodynia is a chronic pain syndrome that affects the vulvar area and occurs without an identifiable cause or visible pathology categorized in the ICD-9 group 625—specifically ICD-9 625.7.......... which is for pain and other disorders of the female genital organs..........

Bid Teddy-

I'm fairly certain Scooter caught the meaning and was playing along. The only problem is - the sand would be an identifiable cause. In the ICD-10, this would be 30.854a, "Superficial foreign body of vagina and vulva, initial encounter" for the first offense, 30.854d for subsequent encounters - with 30.854s thrown in for the pain being a sequela from said foreign body.

The ICD-10 is quite specific, it even has different codes for "pecked by chicken" and "struck by chicken".

[greenberetTFS]

Doc,

I'm fairly certain Scooter caught the meaning and was playing along... I know he did,I just love putting him on.....

Big Teddy