05-19-2011, 19:38
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LMAO, Dusty....
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08-19-2011, 03:00
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What about a multi-caliber platform like the MGI Hydra? I fell across that in my stumblings and it seems as though it'd be handy in some regards... just for the utility that you could have in some instances.
It'd satisfy my desire for a .45 carbine as well as 5.56 and 7.62x39.
Not totally sold on it though, biggest issue would be the company being small. Seems everything's sold out in their store. I don't personally know if they just have a small production line, or if they have a decent size one that's feeding "interesting things" overseas.
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08-19-2011, 17:44
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Originally Posted by TF Kilo
What about a multi-caliber platform like the MGI Hydra? I fell across that in my stumblings and it seems as though it'd be handy in some regards... just for the utility that you could have in some instances.
It'd satisfy my desire for a .45 carbine as well as 5.56 and 7.62x39.
Not totally sold on it though, biggest issue would be the company being small. Seems everything's sold out in their store. I don't personally know if they just have a small production line, or if they have a decent size one that's feeding "interesting things" overseas.
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The owner is a former 18B.
What do you need to know?
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08-19-2011, 23:00
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I re-read the thread to make sure I hadn't missed a MGI weapon owner here, then realized you were talking about Mr. Gwinn. I had read that he was SF off their website, as well as his weapons manufacture pedigree to boot. It leads me to believe it's a solid system.
Specific questions about the MGI system:
- How much point of impact shift is there between barrel swaps... specifically different barrels. I understand that ballistics will be different and zeroing would be the definitive action to ensure accuracy, but with the same 2 barrels and being zeroed with barrel A, is the POI shift reliable enough to tack down as "10 clicks up, 23 clicks right and good for 7.62x39 from 5.56"?
- What's the shift from pulling and reinstalling the same barrel? I realize that asking for it to return to a perfect zero is probably asking too much, but I'm more concerned with it returning to "close enough for 300m or less work" or some semblance thereof.
Other general questions would be the usual firearms questions... how do you like it, what problems have you had, how is their customer service for any issues you have had, how long did it take from order to in hand, etc.
The concept in general, and video I have seen is compelling. On the military side, I could see the utility due to being able to retain all the weapon accessories yet run locally procured ammunition if necessary. It seems that it'd have even more value for a civilian simply because you could maximize range time using whatever ammunition you could get cheapest.
Gun shop has a sale on .45? Buy a case and toss the .45 barrel in your rifle, tweak your zero accordingly and go to town. Com-Bloc ammo on sale at big 5? same deal.
not quite as good as having a weapon for every caliber, but being able to maintain generally the same manual of arms between calibers would have it's value. It also appears to be cheaper to change calibers than to buy a whole new weapon system specifically for X caliber as well.
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09-19-2011, 20:45
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Pistola's and Rifles...My 2 cents.....
Just my opinion, and it's just that, I don't know maybe I should keep it to myself, but....pistol rounds were designed for pistols. Unless you have a specific need for a carbine style pistol, keep those rounds where they belong in a pistol. The same is true with a rifle. I would imagine that your wanting the interchangeability for a SHTF scenario, and in which case sir....forget about it. You have a battlerifle. THe pistol should be for in case you run out of ammo for the rifle or to get to it, in that situation or for places where a rifle would not be feasible to carry. If it's for trigger time, take the advice of the QP's and get a drop in .22 conversion. WOuld give you the versatility that your really looking for, as far as being able to take small game if necassary, and keeping it in a more powerful configuration when not hunting or plinking. It's a sound choice, and you can find a guy on youtube called nut n fancy who uses those .22 conversions for just that, plinking. It's economical and cheaper than buying an entirely new system. Beyond that there are many places that you can order ammo off of the internet, use the $600-$1000 dollars you would have spent on a new weapon and buy ammo for the ones you already have. You do not need an FFL to order ammo, and they will ship it to your front door, and you can find some very, very good deals. And walmart ammo, personally I would stay away from. I have heard some very, very bad things about walmart, and barrels after a year. Plus....you can get ammo pretty cheap, as cheap, if not cheaper in some cases off of the internet than you can walmart, and name brand stuff too. So....that's my opinion, I hope it helps you some.
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09-19-2011, 22:23
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2 cents is two cents....
Depending on the pistol size, there are the following from Rossi in a lever action rifle:
Available in .38/.357, .44 Mag,. .45 Colt, .44-40 Win and .454 Casull. The R92 round barrel comes in two finish options – blue and stainless. All round barrel models feature crescent buttplates and an extended front sight. For brush hunting and wilderness packing, Rossi R92 carbine .454 Casull features optional magazine-tube loading and recoil absorbing butt pad. MSRP $590.00 - $757.00.
Also Mech Tech builds a 45acp upper that attaches to your 1911 lower and gives you a 18in barreled rifle.
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09-19-2011, 22:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blitzzz
Depending on the pistol size, there are the following from Rossi in a lever action rifle:
Available in .38/.357, .44 Mag,. .45 Colt, .44-40 Win and .454 Casull. The R92 round barrel comes in two finish options – blue and stainless. All round barrel models feature crescent buttplates and an extended front sight. For brush hunting and wilderness packing, Rossi R92 carbine .454 Casull features optional magazine-tube loading and recoil absorbing butt pad. MSRP $590.00 - $757.00.
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Agree, they are well made and look nice. Have one in .38/.357 and like how those calibers improve out of a 20" barrel.
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