07-09-2011, 19:02
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Originally Posted by Ramirez
That's something I try and do every time I walk outside of the house. I need to pick me up a wind meter, to see if my guesses are right. You should see my wife laugh at me. The wind will pick up and i'll be standing there like a tard. She says it looks like I was lost in thought.
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One of the best snipers I know "sees" it, like a "fish swimming".
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07-10-2011, 15:02
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I need to pick me up a wind meter, to see if my guesses are right.
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This is about as good of an article as I have seen for reading the wind for hunting purposes. You should copy the indicators to your computer and then take them to the field with you. For competition, there are other methods which usually involve angles of the wind flags or watching mirage by adjusting your parallax knob.
http://www.longrangehunting.com/arti...ading-wind.php
The thing about wind meters is that they only measure the wind where you are. They do not measure wind out in the valley nor over at the target.
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07-25-2011, 10:14
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Originally Posted by Dusty
One of the best snipers I know "sees" it, like a "fish swimming".
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07-25-2011, 10:20
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One of the best snipers I know "sees" it, like a "fish swimming".
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After you've watched enough "trace" you'd know that's exactly what it looks like, "fish swimming".
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07-25-2011, 11:12
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After you've watched enough "trace" you'd know that's exactly what it looks like, "fish swimming".
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I watch trace every time I spot-I can see it pretty easily most of the time. What I can't see is wind. I can see the effects of it-that's as close as I get.
I believe Suttles actually sees the wind.
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07-25-2011, 13:34
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Dusty,
Put yor spotting scope lsightly out of focus then you will see the rising heat waves. It looks like the "mirage" that rises off the road on a hot day. Despending on the velocity and direction of the wind the waves will rise at varying angles. Guess I am a little late in advising you to attend the unit level SOTIC...
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07-25-2011, 14:09
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Dusty,
Put yor spotting scope lsightly out of focus then you will see the rising heat waves. It looks like the "mirage" that rises off the road on a hot day. Despending on the velocity and direction of the wind the waves will rise at varying angles. Guess I am a little late in advising you to attend the unit level SOTIC...
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Oh, I know what you mean, and thanks for the advice.
I'm not talking about mirage, though-I guess I just am unable to explain what I mean.
This guy "sees" the wind. He says it looks like a "fish". Maybe he can explain it-I'm sure he still works out at Badlands...
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07-25-2011, 16:16
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I also did shot second match over the weekend. It was a "low light" match that started at 7PM and ended around midnight. I scored around the middle of the pack. That was a big improvement over the last match.(DFL) Having the AICS which fed well really helped. Also the new trigger was an upgrade.
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07-26-2011, 06:07
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I THINK I know what you are saying. Where you are at you may have 3-5 mph full value from the left, at 100 to say 200 yards it is 1/2 value coming from the right, at 200 to 400 zero value, 400 to 600 1/2 value from right then 600 to 800 full value from left. (example)
It that what you are trying to explain? BTW I am far from being SOTIC material just understand the theory. I have hunted with a guy that was an amazing shot. Like you said, he eyeballed everything and when he pulled the trigger on a deer it was head or neck only and long range ie 400+ yards. I never seen him miss although he said he occasionally did.
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I guess. Might just be experience. Steve got signed off on a kill out past 1200 yards in Nam.
I just need to shoot more...
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09-04-2011, 09:06
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I picked up a new long range rig, dropped it in my AICS
Blue printed 700 Action
Shilen match barrel 1:10 twist #5 contour finished at 24"
Bolt spiral fluted with badger knob
Nightforce 20 MOA base.
Gretan firing pin Assembly.
Timney Trigger @ 2lbs.
Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56
Took it out to 1000 yards yesterday. I was able to hit Clays out to 803 yards, @ 1010 I was hitting pretty close to them, but for me that was close enough.
The guys I was with could really read wind well and were helping me w/ wind calls. That's what I'm spending as much time as I can on. The scope pic is @ 1010 yards, you can hardly see the clays.
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09-04-2011, 09:19
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie
I THINK I know what you are saying. Where you are at you may have 3-5 mph full value from the left, at 100 to say 200 yards it is 1/2 value coming from the right, at 200 to 400 zero value, 400 to 600 1/2 value from right then 600 to 800 full value from left. (example)
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And when you "see" trace from a bullet following that path it does indeed look like a "fish in the wind".
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09-13-2011, 08:28
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Watch this video and tell me which way the wind seems to be blowing. I felt a slight L -> R at my muzzle, but the mirage seemed to be showing a it R->L
I ended up holding 1 MOA right to make the shot. ( 1 MOA in the right hand side of my reticle) Must of been a stronger L->R down at the closer to the target, spin drift was also taken into account.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E39f0...layer_embedded
edit* It's easier to see the paint fly and impact in HD and full creen.
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09-13-2011, 09:12
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Originally Posted by Ramirez
Watch this video and tell me which way the wind seems to be blowing. I felt a slight L -> R at my muzzle, but the mirage seemed to be showing a it R->L
I ended up holding 1 MOA right to make the shot. ( 1 MOA in the right hand side of my reticle) Must of been a stronger L->R down at the closer to the target, spin drift was also taken into account.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E39f0...layer_embedded
edit* It's easier to see the paint fly and impact in HD and full creen.
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Looks to me your first shot was to the left of the target, which would be ccorrect if you were holding off on the right side of the reticle. If you move the dot over the target, you moved you barrel to the left of the target....
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09-13-2011, 09:25
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Looks to me your first shot was to the left of the target, which would be ccorrect if you were holding off on the right side of the reticle. If you move the dot over the target, you moved you barrel to the left of the target....
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Maybe I mis spoke.
Here is a drawing speaking to my POA when I hit my target.
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09-15-2011, 16:06
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I've always just used an OD sock 3/4 full of rice, tied off, for a shooting sock.
I switched over to long-grain brown rice when I got over 200 lbs, though. 
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Don't laugh but drop those into the microwave and they make GREAT heating pads.
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