Can you guess all three...

You are all so close.

The design came from us, well sorta. It is the the same size and has the same framentation pattern as the old M406(HE)round/cartridge. SOG warriors and Vietnam Vets in general will recognize this round as the round used in the M79, XM148, and later the M203. The Dutch just took the rear portion(actual "grenade") of the M79 round and put a Bouchon (modified) type igniter/detonator on it. Plain and simple. By the way, when the Dutch found out that Mr. Baker (CISO) was purchasing them to be used in The Vietnam unplesantness they stopped shipping them to him. Seems they had always been against our involvement in what they coined as a "Vietnamese Conflict between the Vietnamese people only". Sounds familiar doesn't it. Just FYI

[Ambush Master]

Originally Posted by MAB32

You are all so close.
when the Dutch found out that Mr. Baker (CISO)

I didn't even have a clue about "Ben" while I was there. I have since come to know him, for about 20+ years, and consider him a close friend and am forever amazed at what he was able to provide for us !!! We had stuff that was "Way outside " of the standard stuff, and it all worked !!! That was the way of SOG !!

Later
Martin

[Tuukka]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

Correction, Russian RGD33 Fragmentation Stick Grenade.

How was that?

TR

Have a deactivated sample myself.

Originally Posted by Tuukka

Have a deactivated sample myself.

Is there any piece of weaponry that you'd like that you don't have in that shop of yours?

I remember seeing a picture of some of them out on a blanket once.

[longrange1947]

Originally Posted by MAB32

You are all so close.

The design came from us, well sorta. It is the the same size and has the same framentation pattern as the old M406(HE)round/cartridge. SOG warriors and Vietnam Vets in general will recognize this round as the round used in the M79, XM148, and later the M203. The Dutch just took the rear portion(actual "grenade") of the M79 round and put a Bouchon (modified) type igniter/detonator on it. Plain and simple. By the way, when the Dutch found out that Mr. Baker (CISO) was purchasing them to be used in The Vietnam unplesantness they stopped shipping them to him. Seems they had always been against our involvement in what they coined as a "Vietnamese Conflict between the Vietnamese people only". Sounds familiar doesn't it. Just FYI

Dam, could have sworn I stated that it came from the ones we carried in late 60s and early 70s.

Post 6 >>I would guess they were a copy of the old golf ball grenades we carried in the 60s and early 70s. <<

Oh well not emphatic enough.

LR1947, wait a minute, you may also be correct depending upon which grenade you are referring to? The V40 is the same grenade that was used in the 60's and early 70's and is slighltly smaller than a golf ball. They only "golf ball" size grenade I know of within that time period is the V40 & V41. Could you be refering to something else?

[longrange1947]

That is what I am refering to. I have no idea what the nomenclature was for them, we carried them, but did not know them by anything else then the little golf ball grenade. I was but a wee E-5 at the time with very little experience.

[The Reaper]

I think you guys are having commo problems.

The pic is of is essentially the same grenade you carried, LR, so it is not DESIGNED from that mini-grenade, it IS the SAME grenade.

His question was if anyone knew where the Mini-Grenade design came from.

His answer appears to be from the 40mm HE Grenade payload, with a standard Bouchon type pull fuse added.

I cannot dispute that, so I yield to MAB32 on that one.

Besides, they weigh a lot less than your favorite Willie Peter grenade.

TR

As an interesting side note, Mr. PLaster told me on the phone that he didn't care much for the V40 other than when he became a Covey rider. Then he and the pilot carried them in their "survival kit(s)". He told me that the grenade to him gave a false sense of "lack of power". He just felt that people took it for granted because of its size and didn't give it the respect it deserved but in no way did it compare to the M33. He also told me that he much preferrred the standard M33 while running recon as it was a much better destroyer of things than the standard M26(A1). JUst FYI

And as soon as I figure out why I can't get my pictures to post here I will be doing more of the "Guess what I am Part ?"

[Air.177]

Originally Posted by MAB32

As an interesting side note, Mr. PLaster told me on the phone that he didn't care much for the V40 other than when he became a Covey rider. Then he and the pilot carried them in their "survival kit(s)". He told me that the grenade to him gave a false sense of "lack of power". He just felt that people took it for granted because of its size and didn't give it the respect it deserved but in no way did it compare to the M33. He also told me that he much preferrred the standard M33 while running recon as it was a much better destroyer of things than the standard M26(A1). JUst FYI

And as soon as I figure out why I can't get my pictures to post here I will be doing more of the "Guess what I am Part ?"

To Each His Own, I Have Spoken Extensively to One Sog Fellow In particular who sings endless praises of the V-40s.


Just like everything else, Everybody has their opinions.

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by MAB32

And as soon as I figure out why I can't get my pictures to post here I will be doing more of the "Guess what I am Part ?"

Send them to me and I'll fix you up.

TS

JD@professionalsoldiers.com