05-02-2011, 09:49
|
#226
|
|
Area Commander
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: The Black Hills of SD
Posts: 5,944
|
Let's see ..... We watch movies in remembrance of certain events, such as ....
December 7th .... TORA, TORA, TORA
June 6th ..... Saving Pvt Ryan and The Longest Day to name a couple
Could we add this movie to the list ??? .....
May 1st ..... The Men Who Stare At Goats .... (You know Mr. Weaton and his crew had something to do with this ...... right ???)  
__________________
Non Sibi Sed Suis
_____________________________________________
It's Good To Be Da King !!!! Just ask NDD !!!! 
|
|
Sdiver is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 09:49
|
#227
|
|
SF Candidate
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 35
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PiX905
reading this morning that it was navy seals "team 6" (team that until now nobody knew existed) who took him down. He was shot in the head and reports say he has now been buried at sea because nobody wanted his body.
Thank you to our military and anyone who has given their life or lost a loved one trying to find this bastard.
|
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4672216/w...vy-seal-team-6
Someones getting a budget bump...
|
|
Callsign is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:07
|
#228
|
|
Asset
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 17
|
I
I'm just wondering if we will ever get to see a photo of his dead body with the shot in his head, that has not been photo shopped.
|
|
Mobelizer is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:09
|
#229
|
|
Area Commander
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Southern California
Posts: 4,482
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Surgicalcric
Credit... Credit for what, sitting behind a desk making a decision which by all rights should be made at the tactical level to begin with... Give me a break!
It was the men involved in the execution of the operation (to include the support personnel) who crushed the enemy, not the president.
|
QP Surgicalcric--
With respect, there's a difference between giving credit and giving praise. (If the announcement had come during Bush the Younger's administration or during a McCain presidency, what would be our view of the president's role?)
As QPs Pete and Richard have suggested, the president could have done nothing. (Or, equally problematic in my book, he could have sent the Air Force.)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hand
With Respect,
I very strongly disagree that his long term record of hesitancy and inability to commit to a decision or plan or strategy or policy has been counteracted by what for a President is an easy win. He has no skin in the game on this one. If it works out well, he grabs some popularity rating points, if it doesn't, well, he was just following the path that previous Presidents had laid.
While I celebrate with the rest of the country today, and am excited that our military in general and the special operations community in particular gets to chalk up a huge win, I can give Obama no more respect than I could last night before this news came out.
We still have a horrible unemployment rate, we just raised the debt ceiling, we almost had to shut down the government over budget issues, we still have Obamacare to deal with, we have car cars and drug czars and gun czars and air czars. His horrible track record has not gone away.
|
Hand--
I like your analysis. However, please do note that I was answering a specific question.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete
The question now becomes how this event is used politically in the next 18 months.
|
|
|
Sigaba is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:13
|
#230
|
|
SF Candidate
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Rolling Hills
Posts: 13
|
The news says it was ST6/DevGru. But we all know the 160th brought CAG in for this hit : ) I guess it's good PR for Navy recruiters across America today. I'm surprised the Marines haven't claimed they fired the kill shot.
__________________
"Mind is everything. Muscle - pieces of rubber. All that I am, I am because of my mind." Paavo Nurmi
Isaiah 6:8
|
|
distance-runner is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:14
|
#231
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NorCal
Posts: 15,370
|
Quote:
|
News flash...This wasn't an invasion...
|
invasion (noun) - an act of attacking and entering the territory of another country
http://www.politicsdictionary.com/de.../invasion.html
We invaded a sovereign nation's borders w/o their knowledge or permission to unilaterally conduct a ground raid upon their territory - undertaking such an operation is a violation of their internationally recognized sovereignty, an invasion of their territory, and - IAW our doctrine - a strategic level decision.
Richard
__________________
“Sometimes the Bible in the hand of one man is worse than a whisky bottle in the hand of (another)… There are just some kind of men who – who’re so busy worrying about the next world they’ve never learned to live in this one, and you can look down the street and see the results.” - To Kill A Mockingbird (Atticus Finch)
“Almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so.” - Robert Heinlein
|
|
Richard is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:23
|
#232
|
|
Guerrilla Chief
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Georgia
Posts: 875
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigaba
Hand--
I like your analysis. However, please do note that I was answering a specific question.
|
Coming from such a respected member of this board, that is a huge compliment. Thank you. And in re-reading after your clarification I see that I completely misunderstood your response.
You are exactly right.
|
|
Hand is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:27
|
#233
|
|
SF Candidate
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Maryland
Posts: 35
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by distance-runner
The news says it was ST6/DevGru. But we all know the 160th brought CAG in for this hit : ) I guess it's good PR for Navy recruiters across America today. I'm surprised the Marines haven't claimed they fired the kill shot.
|
Why couldn't it have been Devgru?
|
|
Callsign is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:35
|
#234
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland
Posts: 24,824
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
invasion (noun) - an act of attacking and entering the territory of another country
http://www.politicsdictionary.com/de.../invasion.html
We invaded a sovereign nation's borders w/o their knowledge or permission to unilaterally conduct a ground raid upon their territory - undertaking such an operation is a violation of their internationally recognized sovereignty, an invasion of their territory, and - IAW our doctrine - a strategic level decision.
Richard |
Has it been confirmed that the Pakistani government was unaware of this op, or opposed it?
TR
__________________
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
|
|
The Reaper is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:36
|
#235
|
|
Asset
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: NC
Posts: 6
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by distance-runner
The news says it was ST6/DevGru. But we all know the 160th brought CAG in for this hit : ) I guess it's good PR for Navy recruiters across America today. I'm surprised the Marines haven't claimed they fired the kill shot.
|
Why are you surprised Marines haven't claimed they fired the kill shot?
|
|
gumby2/6 is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:41
|
#236
|
|
Guerrilla
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 356
|
Apologies if they've been posted before, but here's the Google Maps link for the compound:
http://goo.gl/y0RNG
The reviews are good for a chuckle or two:
http://goo.gl/91omM
|
|
perdurabo is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:44
|
#237
|
|
Guerrilla
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 356
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
Has it been confirmed that the Pakistani government was unaware of this op, or opposed it?
|
In my experience as an armchair intel analyst sitting safely in my ergonomic office chair halfway around the world wouldn't it seem likely that some small elements of the Pakistani government and/or military were aware of the operation?
I'd wager that the ISI was taken by surprise, or at least the Al Qaeda friendly elements...
It's a touchy enough political climate to suggest that perhaps one thing was stated to the press and that it didn't match reality. We'll never know -- not until it's all declassified decades from now.
Last edited by perdurabo; 05-02-2011 at 10:50.
|
|
perdurabo is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:45
|
#238
|
|
Quiet Professional
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Pineland, Northern Province
Posts: 600
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
Has it been confirmed that the Pakistani government was unaware of this op, or opposed it?
TR
|
I do not believe so...
Wasn't this raid launched from a Pakistani Airfield as was reported last night? There seems to have been some level of collusion here and far from having met the definition of an invasion....
__________________
Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will delineate and define you.
Thomas Jefferson
"The scene changes but the aspirations of men of good will persist."
Vannevar Bush
|
|
uplink5 is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:46
|
#239
|
|
BANNED USER
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Monterey California
Posts: 392
|
Just think of all of the time, effort, lives and money that could have been saved if "Slick Willy" had given Billy Waugh the green light when OBL was in Tora Borah!
|
|
f50lrrp is offline
|
|
|
05-02-2011, 10:47
|
#240
|
|
Consigliere
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Free Pineland (at last)
Posts: 8,841
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
Has it been confirmed that the Pakistani government was unaware of this op, or opposed it?
TR
|
Heard on TV this am that they were informed when it was over. Not sure that is sufficient confirmation for you, though. 
|
|
Roguish Lawyer is offline
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:56.
|
|
|
Linear Mode
