10-22-2010, 18:21
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Just to review:
1. Treat every firearm as if it were loaded.
2. Never allow the muzzle to point at anything you are not willing to see destroyed.
3. Be sure of your target and know what lies beyond it.
4. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are aligned on target.
Looks like a clear violation of #1, 2, and 3, and possibly 4.
TR
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11-06-2010, 16:28
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I saw this as a response to the CNBC report, Thought you would all enjoy it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YFIwoZsWHk
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11-06-2010, 21:17
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No wonder their so called "expert witness" said what he did. He makes 50% of his income by lying for anti-gun attorneys!
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11-30-2010, 16:00
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I thought it was a biased but pretty interesting story. Just kind crazy how the beloved Remington 700 has a potentially fatal design flaw that Remington has tried to hide when it could of fixed the problem from the get go.
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11-30-2010, 16:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Reaper
Just to review:
1. Treat every firearm as if it were loaded.
2. Never allow the muzzle to point at anything you are not willing to see destroyed.
3. Be sure of your target and know what lies beyond it.
4. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are aligned on target.
Looks like a clear violation of #1, 2, and 3, and possibly 4.
TR
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You just nailed it.
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11-30-2010, 22:22
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No gun should fire when you put the safety on. If it does, and the company knew about it, they are liable.
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01-18-2012, 16:39
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Talk about resurrecting an old thread...but
When I was on the committee, this did happen to me. In the early 90s we were up at Camp Butler for an NRA across the course match. I was firing from the prone, using iron sights on my work M24. At one point during a string I chambered a round (weapon off safe) and as I closed the bolt the weapon fired. This was in front of plenty of witnesses to include other SOTIC instructors. Was my finger on the trigger? Nope. I'm a lefty and I was reaching over the rifle to manipulate the bolt (try it if you're having trouble picturing this). My right hand was in a shooting glove and held tight against the front of the stock by my shooting sling. This was the only time this ever happened to me in spite of shooting dozens of M24s and Rem 700s, including a 700 I have owned since 1985. BUT, this did happen and the news story rang true with me.
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01-19-2012, 13:48
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My Remington 700
I have owned a heavy barrel Remington from their custom shop in .375 H&H Magnum. Using this rifle for about 20 years, I have never had an AD despite a few weeks a year of hunting. I never use the safety catch. The bolt is either hanging open when in or on a vehicle or in the company of others, or the rifle is ready to shoot with just a squeeze of the trigger. I dont like the safety on the 700 as it is stiff and noisy, so I dont use it.
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01-20-2012, 12:48
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700 trigger
If the 700 trigger is periodically flushed out and lubed it works just fine unless somone wth a screwdriver has decided he was a gunsmith. Problems I have seen are invariably lack of maintenance or improperly adjusted triggers.
Marines have been using M700/M40 triggers since 1968...
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01-20-2012, 15:19
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Originally Posted by MVP
If the 700 trigger is periodically flushed out and lubed it works just fine unless somone wth a screwdriver has decided he was a gunsmith. Problems I have seen are invariably lack of maintenance or improperly adjusted triggers.
Marines have been using M700/M40 triggers since 1968...
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MVP, you hit it on the head. I have been around 700s for few years and the only reson for slam fires and guns going off when the safty is disengaged is poor maintenance and the "Golden Screwdriver". Teh idiot female that shot her kid admitted that the trigger had been "worked on". Well DUUUUH!!
Divemaster, bet you had not flushed out the sear area for a while had you? 
That is the biggest cause of slam fires in the course.
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01-20-2012, 16:14
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Divemaster, bet you had not flushed out the sear area for a while had you?
That is the biggest cause of slam fires in the course. |
This was shortly before we hired you on to reminisce about starting the course. Therefore, I blame you for not already being there to make sure I did that.
P.S.- thanks again for the tour of the new Range 37 back in '10.
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01-20-2012, 17:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Divemaster
This was shortly before we hired you on to reminisce about starting the course. Therefore, I blame you for not already being there to make sure I did that.
P.S.- thanks again for the tour of the new Range 37 back in '10.
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Enjoyed it. I like the direction Range 37 has taken over the last several years and the advances it has made with the ranges, curriculum, and instructor quality.
My days there are over and I no longer reminisce about helping to start the course.
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