Vertical Grips - Page 4

Cincinnatus · 08-29-2006, 19:04

jatx,

I've got an older SureFire Millenium light, IIRC (M-4 type handguard w/ 3 [123] battery light mounted at about two o'clock, pressure pad on the handguard, dial switch for constant/ intermittent/ off behind the light), it's very bright, totally reliable, on the heavy side and was quite pricey. I was thinking about the things I didn't like; the weight, the light at 2 o'clock vs. 6 o'clock, and the price, and wondering about a cheap way of accomplishing the same functionality.

I've also been reading posts by different folks about the best way to grip the forend/ handguard on various boards... So it boils down to idle ruminations and wondering if anyone had tried using the YMT rail, scope rings and a light at six o'clock and how that had worked.

**Peregrino** · 08-30-2006, 08:11

Cincinnatus - Try rotating your M500 to the bottom handguard position. Then replace the SureFire handguard half with a standard (skinny, single heat shield) carbine handguard for the top position. It'll put the light at 8 o'clock, eliminate the shadow below your line of sight, clear your FOV for traversing right, and still leave the controls accessible to your left thumb. The only issue is sling position. Work-arounds aren't that difficult. FWIW - Peregrino

Cincinnatus · 08-30-2006, 19:57

Thanks. I'll give that a try.

**Team Sergeant** · 01-17-2007, 17:43

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Originally Posted by CharlesArbuckle

As a general thing I do not use one, the exception is where a light, peq2, etc. is taking all the space up. Weapon setup is an individual thing, with the mission driving the gear. Having said that, you will have more control, and therefore better able to "drive" the gun gripping as far forward as possible. Think of sweeping with a broom. You dont sweep with your hands close together, you get them all the way down on the handle. For pure shooting speed, you will shoot faster without one. If you must use one, put it as far out on the rail as possible, with your thumb on the weak side pointing forward and your hand pulling straight back. YMMV.

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamsergeant

Charles,

You have been asked by more than one Special Forces soldier what you do in B-1/20. You have yet to answer.

We have cooks, clerks and mechanics etc. assigned to Special Forces. Before you post on this board again you will clarify your job title and qualifications.

If you are Special Forces qualified just say so. If you are mechanic, private, assigned to 20th SFG, again, let us know.

Don't post again until you inform one of the Special Forces administrators.

Team Sergeant

It took a while but now I do know that Mr. Arbuckle is NOT a Special Forces soldier and has never been to the Special Forces Qualification Course.

I would guess thats also why he's never returned.

TS

Irish_Army01 · 01-17-2007, 18:00

There is, as you Guys are well Aware a built in Fore Grip on the Styer that we in the Irish Defence Force's use..I've never liked it or used it and prefere to use the trigger guard to hold as stability, and find my accuracy is better than holding the grip standing,kneeling or prone..

I've never fired the M4 series of weapons so I won't comment on how the grip performs.

In saying that, the dynamics change when you have a 203 slung under your rifle.

MeC86 · 02-24-2010, 11:03

Anyone tried out this angled foregrip from Magpul.

http://store.magpul.com/product/64/100

C0B2A · 02-24-2010, 13:45

I have the Magpul AFG on my AR and I love it. Very ergonomic design, very comfortable with easy good positive control over the weapon. Great addition to my setup.

kgoerz · 02-25-2010, 17:46

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Originally Posted by C0B2A

I have the Magpul AFG on my AR and I love it. Very ergonomic design, very comfortable with easy good positive control over the weapon. Great addition to my setup.

We teach the Students here not to put a full Grip on the FVG. It makes the shooter pull the Weapon to the side.
I just ordered two AFG'S. one for my work Weapon and one for my new M4 i'm picking up Saturday. Ill let you know what I think. But from the on line reviews so far. They are the Tits.

Echo · 03-02-2010, 18:53

To those using the AFG: how much of an advantage, and of what nature, do you find it offers over a competition type or C-clamp grip, which instructors such as Kyle Lamb advocate?

Thanks.

jatx · 03-02-2010, 19:05

I have been using the new Troy grip in stubby mode and really like it. It is very solid and well-made. Something to consider...

MeC86 · 07-08-2010, 18:06

Picked up a magpul Angled fore grip and I love it.

Felt like it put my support arm at a more comfortable position allowing for a tighter hold and quicker follow up shots. Not much difference for me as far as the first shot went.

Good piece of equipment.

Iraqgunz · 07-08-2010, 21:51

I have been using the Troy foregrip with the ADM QD mount and I like them. I use the both the stubby and standard size. I mount mine all the way forward and I have noticed that I can acquire a target faster.

I recently put a Troy modular aluminum grip on my wifes carbine and it works good also. It will let you switch from standard size to stubby in just a few seconds. Someone had them on eBay for 54.00.

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ccrn · 07-17-2010, 16:52

Was at SFBCC a few weeks ago and the instructors there are not using the verticle grips. Most of them did have the AFG at the very end of the rifle and some had it mounted on the side.

I took my Larue vertigle grip off for most of this course so I could emulate them but did end up throwing it back on for the couple of days running simms through the shoot house.

So much to learn and use....

Animal8526 · 07-27-2010, 07:09

When I first got to the desert the quick and dirty CQB class from the MPRI guys never mentioned a proper grip to use while a VFG was mounted. Most guys went "full retard" just because it seemed that that's what it was for.

Now days, I've found that the most effective way for me to use a VFG is to just use it as an index point to emulate the magwell grip from. This works well on my shorter AR without a ton of weight up front. If I had more weight riding forward on the weapon I'd push the grip out a little further to keep me from fighting the inertia during quick left/right target transitions.

The magpul AFG has me interested, but I really need to get my hands on one before I drop the $30 on it, as I'm too broke to be spending money on anything but ammo for practice. I've found that most magpul products end up doing everything I want and more, so I'm not that concerned, but again, $30 is a bit of coin to someone who is out of work.

I'd like to hear any more feedback from guys using the AFG.

Hardluck77 · 07-29-2010, 08:05

One of the guys on my team bought an AFG for our OEF-A PMT and a month later when we deployed 75% of the team were running them. Personally, I love mine. It gives you a solid grip but still allows you to get that non-firing hand thumb as far over the bore as possible, which dramatically reduces time needed to re-aquire for follow up shots, as well as tightens up your group. Just keep in mind that you have to train with it regularly... and the importance of learning better shooting techniques far outweigh the importance of what kind of accessories you're running. If you ever have a chance to go to the magpul shooting school that they run all over the country, jump on it, or at least give the DVDs a try. They do a pretty good job of teaching competition shooting techniques with combat marksmanship and tactical awareness in mind. Just my 2 cents.