12-18-2009, 10:50
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SFAS on television
I hope the presentation reflects the serious stress inducement and testing/evaluation that is taking place, perhaps by looking "over the shoulder" of the evaluators as they pull out clipboards/notepads, take notes and point out the motivational, leadership and stamina skills present or lacking in the candidates.
It would be too easy to simply describe "two/three weeks of hell" and make it look like an out of control frat party hazing, or a meaningless "manly-men doing manly things in manly ways" rite of passage instead of a finely tuned ASSESSMENT that has led to a pipeline of the finest UW warriors the world has ever known.
(And no, being a gray hair, I didn't have to go through SFAS. Ours was a less structured -- but I believe no less intensive and demanding -- individual selection process).
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12-18-2009, 12:03
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I saw the previews for this and man. One guy had a bloody nose that was gushing. It looks like a good eye-opening show.
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Wonder if they will give us a good look at "Nasty Nick", I attempted to look for videos of it on youtube, my efforts were in vain.
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12-18-2009, 12:50
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...just to experience it
im glad im not young and dont have to experience it again
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12-18-2009, 12:52
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Wonder if they will give us a good look at "Nasty Nick", I attempted to look for videos of it on youtube, my efforts were in vain.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjrWkLPqUZs
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12-18-2009, 12:55
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Wonder if they will give us a good look at "Nasty Nick", I attempted to look for videos of it on youtube, my efforts were in vain.
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I am sure there are parts that will never see public light of day. But here is the preview. Go to the Discovery Channel website and search for "Two weeks in Hell"
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/two-...asty-nick.html
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12-18-2009, 13:10
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a thought on specops and worldwide coverage
I bet a lot will agree...Im not sure how advantageous it is to reveal things like SFAS...even edited. Whats the purpose....recruitment? I remembering talking to Discovery producer Gordon Forbes during shooting of the 3 night, 10 hour SEAL special about differences in USSF and SEALs...he never did get it. Some people think only one way...entertainment first.
90% of the anxiety, fear, and despair while going into things like BUDs, SFAS, is not knowing whats going to happen. Was for me at least.
Nice to know these days all you have to do is pop on the tube before your trip to Bragg and get a good idea for what awaits you.
Discovery Channel will benefit from this, but how does the Regiment?
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12-18-2009, 14:35
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I bet a lot will agree...Im not sure how advantageous it is to reveal things like SFAS...even edited. Whats the purpose....recruitment? I remembering talking to Discovery producer Gordon Forbes during shooting of the 3 night, 10 hour SEAL special about differences in USSF and SEALs...he never did get it. Some people think only one way...entertainment first.
90% of the anxiety, fear, and despair while going into things like BUDs, SFAS, is not knowing whats going to happen. Was for me at least.
Nice to know these days all you have to do is pop on the tube before your trip to Bragg and get a good idea for what awaits you.
Discovery Channel will benefit from this, but how does the Regiment?
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I don't know. I'm sure a lot of the older guys and old school guys will not like it. The cynic in me is saying "What's the point?". But I'm going to have to watch it and judge then. It seems like it's going to dampen some of the mysticism surrounding SFAS and SF.
Ultimately, it's cheap entertainment. I know I will be sitting from the comfort of my couch watching, laughing, drinking a beer and saying "Oh, that sucks".
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12-18-2009, 14:39
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exactly....and to me that takes a lot from the mystic and respect those organizations hold in their selection process. Nobody should know anything about it..until you're in it 
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12-18-2009, 14:58
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exactly....and to me that takes a lot from the mystic and respect those organizations hold in their selection process. Nobody should know anything about it..until you're in it |
Agreed, OTOH, It could also spur someone that could end up being an asset to SF into attending SFAS. It is very much, in some respects the Sword of Damocles.
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12-18-2009, 15:31
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im glad im not young and dont have to experience it again
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I'm glad I'm old and never had to experience it at all..................   
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12-18-2009, 15:39
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the sword
I'm not sure about the Sword of Damocles, but if someone needs a hollywood-ized special to spark their interest, may not be the right person. With that said, there's a lot of guys out there that were inspired by Robin Moore, etc. The difference is, the newer versions in my opinion give to much access to the real process.
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12-18-2009, 17:50
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Interesting thread.
I did a search but was unable to identify the year that SFAS was initiated.
Just curious.
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12-18-2009, 18:41
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Interesting thread.
I did a search but was unable to identify the year that SFAS was initiated.
Just curious.
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Somewhere around 1988 or so, initially as SFOT, which became SFAS.
It was a real gut check back then, culminating in an ungodly ruck march back to Bragg.
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12-18-2009, 18:51
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Somewhere around 1988 or so, initially as SFOT, which became SFAS.
It was a real gut check back then, culminating in an ungodly ruck march back to Bragg.
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So what did you guys do before then, to 'get selected' and what was the 'selection'?
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12-18-2009, 18:59
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I'm not sure about the Sword of Damocles, but if someone needs a hollywood-ized special to spark their interest, may not be the right person. With that said, there's a lot of guys out there that were inspired by Robin Moore, etc. The difference is, the newer versions in my opinion give to much access to the real process.
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Shows my age.
When I went to Mackall, it was called the Sword of Demosthenes.
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