06-24-2004, 20:32
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Right heavy and long. They weigh more and are longer than some of the Little People carrying them. Besides, this is our AO - if they're going to buy weapons they should buy US weapons. They love the AR15 series. Its a trophy for them. M4 is just right.
Why isn't it called the M-17? 
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06-24-2004, 20:37
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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
They love the AR15 series. Its a trophy for them. M4 is just right.
Why isn't it called the M-17?
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Because it is a carbine, not a rifle, and the last officially designated carbine before the M-4 was the M-3.
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06-24-2004, 20:50
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Originally posted by The Reaper
Because it is a carbine, not a rifle, and the last officially designated carbine before the M-4 was the M-3.
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Gracias Obie Wan - I should have thought of that.
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06-24-2004, 20:56
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They were XM177E2s for me !! 
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06-24-2004, 22:04
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They were XM177E2s for me !!
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My first one was too.
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06-26-2004, 23:46
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Guys...
The doobywakkythingy at the front of the bipod is a fence cutter, but can also be used as a bottle opener.
Bet you didn't know it was called a doobywakkythingy!
G'day / Howzit / Shalom Hoepoe! Thanks for the link.
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Welcome aboard mate!
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06-28-2004, 06:33
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used the galil and galillon alot since the reserves, during training. I must say though that they are reliable. Compact and easily thrown into an apc etc... and come out of it firing pretty acturately in the direction you need.
The butt is quite good tool as well, since the gun is robust you can use it to ...break things and still shoot. eg. locks etc... anyway
The bitch is to close the damn butt, got to hit it just right with your upper arm and it closes fast, if you miss, you get a nice bruise. (that's just to look cool, when you slam that thing shut , there is a more gentil way)
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06-28-2004, 07:09
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Originally posted by danjam
used the galil and galillon alot since the reserves, during training. I must say though that they are reliable. Compact and easily thrown into an apc etc... and come out of it firing pretty acturately in the direction you need.
The butt is quite good tool as well, since the gun is robust you can use it to ...break things and still shoot. eg. locks etc... anyway
The bitch is to close the damn butt, got to hit it just right with your upper arm and it closes fast, if you miss, you get a nice bruise. (that's just to look cool, when you slam that thing shut , there is a more gentil way)
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HAHAHA i remember the first and last time i tried that!!!! Now i just squeeze and close.
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