02-05-2004, 11:09
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There are three things I have that I can't drop in a half hour - the Glocks ain't on the list.
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May I ask what is?
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02-05-2004, 14:51
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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
May I ask what is?
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He might tell you, but if he did, well you know the rest....
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02-05-2004, 14:56
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He might tell you, but if he did, well you know the rest....
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05-03-2009, 16:10
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In the spirit of using the search function...and reviving old threads...
I wonder which mods might be appropriate for a G-17 for CCW.
It appears that an aluminum trigger, titanium striker, titanium safety plunger, and 3.5 pound connector are desirable.
However, since 5 years have passed, I wonder if the list has changed. With the exception of the popular 1911 mod, what mods are best for the shooter with modest abilities?
Also...does a reduced trigger pull represent a safety risk for someone not as well trained as most on this forum? Is it too light for the less-skilled user?
Should a Bar-Sto stainless uncompensated barrel be added? Is a stainless or tungsten guide rod worthwhile?
Thanks as always.
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05-03-2009, 20:41
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Originally Posted by nmap
In the spirit of using the search function...and reviving old threads...
I wonder which mods might be appropriate for a G-17 for CCW.
It appears that an aluminum trigger, titanium striker, titanium safety plunger, and 3.5 pound connector are desirable.
However, since 5 years have passed, I wonder if the list has changed. With the exception of the popular 1911 mod, what mods are best for the shooter with modest abilities?
Also...does a reduced trigger pull represent a safety risk for someone not as well trained as most on this forum? Is it too light for the less-skilled user?
Should a Bar-Sto stainless uncompensated barrel be added? Is a stainless or tungsten guide rod worthwhile?
Thanks as always.
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Okay, okay do the HK mod then.
Change the trigger to 3.5 lbs and call it good... use the money for all the other crap on ammo and training.
A 3.5 lb trigger is just as big of a liability as a stock trigger. Yes, it is lighter but when your adrenaline kicks in the 2.5 lbs isn't gonna make that much of a difference in stopping you from pulling the trigger.
Just remember in a shooting you are either justified or you are not... it is that simple, make your shots a conscience decision.
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05-03-2009, 21:03
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Originally Posted by nmap
In the spirit of using the search function...and reviving old threads...
I wonder which mods might be appropriate for a G-17 for CCW.
It appears that an aluminum trigger, titanium striker, titanium safety plunger, and 3.5 pound connector are desirable.
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nmap, I know it's for CCW and not competition or other purposes, but I would either make sure the sights (esp. the rear one) are dead solid, or replace it with metal/tactical mod. I posted sometime ago about rear sight shift on a G34.
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05-03-2009, 23:30
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Hey, this old thread was a fun read for a GLOCK fan from way back! Thank you. With that spirit in mind:
The pistol I shoot in local competitions, and just for fun when I have ammo, is a GLOCK 21 I bought new in 1991. It has at least 60,000 rounds through it, is on its fourth set of magazines (springs & followers), second set of internal springs, has a custom disconnector and a little work to smooth up the trigger. The springs & disconnector are from Ghost Inc. and I have no complaints about either. All other parts are factory stock or factory replacements.
Last month it started having trouble going fully into battery and its groups opened up dramatically. My armorer friend took a look and showed me the problem. With the pistol unloaded, he racked the slide then depressed the top of the barrel shroud. Since they have loose tolerances it would be OK if it deflected 1/32 inch, but mine dropped a full 1/8th inch. The lug the barrel locks onto was in spec, so a new barrel was suggested.
While shopping online I found that Storm Lake makes drop in replacement as well as slightly longer barrels that were compensated. Both were cheaper than getting a factory replacement. While it was tempting to go compensated I do a lot of shooting from positions close enough to my clothes that, combined with my poor luck, I would doubtless catch myself on fire. Reading about how much tighter the Storm Lake products fit made me chicken out and pay the extra for a factory replacement.
I'm no longer an armed professional nor even a serious competitor, just an ordinary armed citizen, but I don't want to take a chance on sacrificing reliability for a slight bump in accuracy. One most days the gun out shoots me anyway. The G21 is what I carry around the farm and if I'm wearing a Winter jacket.
My pal the GLOCK armorer shoots a G17 with a Storm Lake compensated barrel in competition and has no reliability issues, but does complain that soot builds up on the front of the pistol making the blade & dot hard to see after a long string of fire.
Good luck with whatever you choose. -Michael
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05-04-2009, 13:10
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I wonder which mods might be appropriate for a G-17 for CCW.
It appears that an aluminum trigger, titanium striker, titanium safety plunger, and 3.5 pound connector are desirable.
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The benefits you gain from those modifications may not be worth the cost in terms of reliability.
The only thing I’ve done to mine is replace the sights with tritium sights.
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05-04-2009, 13:12
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Originally Posted by redleg99
The benefits you gain from those modifications may not be worth the cost in terms of reliability.
The only thing I’ve done to mine is replace the sights with tritium sights.
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I tend to agree. I have the 3.5# disconnector and the night sights.
Less mods is also less to explain in court, if you ever have to.
TR
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05-04-2009, 21:40
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Originally Posted by Smokin Joe
Change the trigger to 3.5 lbs and call it good... use the money for all the other crap on ammo and training.
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Thank you for your thoughts. I suspect the present gun shoots better than I do, so I can see that the greatest improvement would come from training and practice.
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Originally Posted by Threeofclubs
but I don't want to take a chance on sacrificing reliability for a slight bump in accuracy.
Good luck with whatever you choose. -Michael
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That's a good point - I hadn't considered it, but should have. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by redleg99
The benefits you gain from those modifications may not be worth the cost in terms of reliability.
The only thing I’ve done to mine is replace the sights with tritium sights.
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Good point...and you're the second person to mention reliability.
I'm thinking of the XS standard dots for tritium sights. I have the big dots on another firearm; they're great for short range, but not so good for more distant targets.
Thank you!
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I tend to agree. I have the 3.5# disconnector and the night sights.
Less mods is also less to explain in court, if you ever have to.
TR
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Thank you, Sir. As always, I appreciate your help.
I seem to recall that you didn't care for the big dot sights, because you wanted greater precision. Have you any guidance to offer on the subject of night sights?
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