Whitehouse.gov already calling for gun ban

[KClapp]

Originally Posted by echoes

Believe that it is Our duty as American citizens, to challenge, cry-foul, and make Our voices heard, when those represented to serve us

It most certainly is a responsible citizen's duty. Frankly, it is also my God-given duty. However, there is no requirement, other than force of arms and the ballot box, for our so-called representatives to listen. The force of arms is off the table, for a number of reasons. The ballot box is slow and can be manipulated by propaganda and fraud, as this last election demonstrated.

I'm far too pragmatic to believe my stand will amount to anything. I'm also too much of a warrior to just quit.

[bkleonards]

Originally Posted by olddoc

It looks like the fox is trying to take a different route into the henhouse.

Senate Bill 2286 recently died in committee in the state of Mississippi. If passed this bill would have required serial encoding of all ammunition produced or sold in the state. It also would have required disposal of all non encoded ammunition by 1 Jan 2010!

This all apparently falls under the larger umbrella of the Ammunition Accountability Act. On one of their websites, their motto is "saving lives one bullet at a time".

If this ever passes, it will probably make ammunition unafordable by most, not to mention the issues it poses to 2nd ammendment rights ( protection of freedom) and privacy issues.

This is currently underway in other states. I would encourage everyone to check their local legislation and make sure this is not silently making its way onto the books in their area.

Health and safety to all.

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Copied below from another site. thought it would be interesting to add to what is already posted.

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To ALL,

This must be put out to ALL Local, STATE, and FEDERAL Legislators. This Legislation must be stopped. Please insure this is sent to every Hunter, Gun Collectors and Recreational Shooter.

The Second Amendment MUST be respected and not rewritten by the left as they have done to American History. Our ability to Self Defense MUST be respected.

This post will be before 25,000 individuals within 24 hours. Keep it going until this attack on Americans is stopped.

John C.

Redding, CA

Look it up on snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ammunition.asp

Ammunition Accountability Legislation.
Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana ) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

Send to your friends in these states AND fight to stop this Bill from being passed!!!

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to: http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

[Defender968]

Originally Posted by bkleonards

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Copied below from another site. thought it would be interesting to add to what is already posted.

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To ALL,

This must be put out to ALL Local, STATE, and FEDERAL Legislators. This Legislation must be stopped. Please insure this is sent to every Hunter, Gun Collectors and Recreational Shooter.

The Second Amendment MUST be respected and not rewritten by the left as they have done to American History. Our ability to Self Defense MUST be respected.

This post will be before 25,000 individuals within 24 hours. Keep it going until this attack on Americans is stopped.

John C.

Redding, CA

Look it up on snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ammunition.asp

Ammunition Accountability Legislation.
Remember how Obama said that he wasn't going to take your guns? Well, it seems that his allies in the anti-gun world have no problem with taking your ammo!

The bill that is being pushed in 18 states (including Illinois and Indiana ) requires all ammunition to be encoded by the manufacture a data base of all ammunition sales. So they will know how much you buy and what calibers. Nobody can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009 unless the ammunition is coded.

Any privately held uncoded ammunition must be destroyed by July 1, 2011. (Including hand loaded ammo.) They will also charge a .05 cent tax on every round so every box of ammo you buy will go up at least $2.50 or more!

If they can deprive you of ammo they do not need to take your gun!

This legislation is currently pending in 18 states: Alabama, Arizona, California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Washington.

Send to your friends in these states AND fight to stop this Bill from being passed!!!

To find more about the anti-gun group that is sponsoring this legislation and the specific legislation for each state, go to: http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

You can mark SC off the list, this legislation died last year with 0 cosigners, none of the politicians in my state dared to attach their name to that garbage . As for the rest of the states I don't know but at least we will keep our bullets in SC. Of course I've been looking online and you can't find much ammo right now, everyone’s buying scared (and there's nothing wrong with that considering the political climate)!

[Paslode]

I am sure it will be presented again, but I believe Missouri nixed that a year ago.

[Constant]

Originally Posted by Paslode

I am sure it will be presented again, but I believe Missouri nixed that a year ago.

We sure did!! (Born resident of Missouri, just stationed in Colorado)

[phantom1984]

How would i find out about Kentucky?

[echoes]

Originally Posted by KClapp

It most certainly is a responsible citizen's duty. Frankly, it is also my God-given duty. However, there is no requirement, other than force of arms and the ballot box, for our so-called representatives to listen. The force of arms is off the table, for a number of reasons. The ballot box is slow and can be manipulated by propaganda and fraud, as this last election demonstrated.

I'm far too pragmatic to believe my stand will amount to anything. I'm also too much of a warrior to just quit.

KClapp,

Very good points, and it will be interesting to see in the coming weeks how many gun rights the current administration will attempt to dissolve. Speak up and speak out loud, IMHO.

Phantom, a google search just performed rendered ten pages to links on gun laws state-by-state.

Holly

[bravo22b]

In PA, this was introduced as House Bill 2228. The only action that was taken on it so far was that it was referred to the Judiciary committee. I'm going to dig a little deeper when I have a chance and try to find out more, but hopefully it died a quiet death, never to be seen again.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by phantom1984

How would i find out about Kentucky?

Are you familiar with Google?

How about the NRA?

TR

[GratefulCitizen]

Minor case with major implications:
http://www.saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=286

This could lead to the incorporation of the 2nd Amendment.

[Arwr]

I prefer to read rather than post, but these are my observations of this matter.

Americans love being COMMUNIST, as long as they get to call it Democracy. The US Constitution has already been rewritten, and a new government has been established for well over a hundred and forty years now. Every amendment after the tenth, and various foreign treaties, has resulted in the systematic destruction of a free, reverent, and sovereign self governing people, and replaced it with a godless tyrannical oligarchy of reprobates. America has been under Martial Law since the 1860s. Thus, the Bill of Rights is irrelevant, as it has been supplanted by the 14th Amendment.

All ten planks of Marx's manifesto have been implemented, and institutionalised, in America. America isn't somewhat socialistic; America is absolutely communist. What is more pathetic is that Americans truly identify with these communist institutions as being the "American Way." And, like good little communist, they send their children off to the local Dewey Camp for indoctrination to be socially engineered, and systematically demoralised. Then when it comes time for the Trotsky Mind Laundry, Americans actually fork out tens of thousands of dollars of their hard earned money for the advanced level Party indoctrination. Americans pretend its education, but if it were education they would actually be literate enough to understand the US Constitution, and other ancient landmarks. And, of course, from birth to the grave there are mega doses of Tell-us-o Vladamir. Can the Communist Commissars be anymore obvious? Its called TV PROGRAMMING!

Will American's eventually make a stand against tyranny? Sure, as soon as their Communist Commissars outline and define the tyranny so they can go get their Right to Bear Arms Against Tyranny Permit from the Sherrif, and pass the I'm a Good Little Communist background check. And, as we all know, Americans with all their firearms ever ready to defend America, puts fear into any nation daring to think of invading her borders. Yeah, thats why FORTY MILLION criminal foreign nationals have invaded America claiming RECONQUISTA! An invasion force of over FORTY MILLION foreign invaders is occupying American soil, and there are still Americans out there wondering when will the SHTF? Stop the Insanity. Susan Powter, where are you? And, as the American patriots cry "MOLON LABE," take note, the Communist Commissars don't need to come and get your guns, because Americans will never use them. GUN LAWS ARE JUST ANOTHER DISTRACTION! America fell long ago without firing a single shot.

Sorry, Comrades, but Americans haven't the stomach for liberty. Slaves never do.

Arwr

[The Reaper]

Hmm.

More tinfoil, anyone?

TR

[SF_BHT]

Has someone not taken their meds today?

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Arwr

I prefer to read rather than post, but these are my observations of this matter.

Americans love being COMMUNIST, as long as they get to call it Democracy. The US Constitution has already been rewritten, and a new government has been established for well over a hundred and forty years now. Every amendment after the tenth, and various foreign treaties, has resulted in the systematic destruction of a free, reverent, and sovereign self governing people, and replaced it with a godless tyrannical oligarchy of reprobates. America has been under Martial Law since the 1860s. Thus, the Bill of Rights is irrelevant, as it has been supplanted by the 14th Amendment.

All ten planks of Marx's manifesto have been implemented, and institutionalised, in America. America isn't somewhat socialistic; America is absolutely communist. What is more pathetic is that Americans truly identify with these communist institutions as being the "American Way." And, like good little communist, they send their children off to the local Dewey Camp for indoctrination to be socially engineered, and systematically demoralised. Then when it comes time for the Trotsky Mind Laundry, Americans actually fork out tens of thousands of dollars of their hard earned money for the advanced level Party indoctrination. Americans pretend its education, but if it were education they would actually be literate enough to understand the US Constitution, and other ancient landmarks. And, of course, from birth to the grave there are mega doses of Tell-us-o Vladamir. Can the Communist Commissars be anymore obvious? Its called TV PROGRAMMING!

Will American's eventually make a stand against tyranny? Sure, as soon as their Communist Commissars outline and define the tyranny so they can go get their Right to Bear Arms Against Tyranny Permit from the Sherrif, and pass the I'm a Good Little Communist background check. And, as we all know, Americans with all their firearms ever ready to defend America, puts fear into any nation daring to think of invading her borders. Yeah, thats why FORTY MILLION criminal foreign nationals have invaded America claiming RECONQUISTA! An invasion force of over FORTY MILLION foreign invaders is occupying American soil, and there are still Americans out there wondering when will the SHTF? Stop the Insanity. Susan Powter, where are you? And, as the American patriots cry "MOLON LABE," take note, the Communist Commissars don't need to come and get your guns, because Americans will never use them. GUN LAWS ARE JUST ANOTHER DISTRACTION! America fell long ago without firing a single shot.

Sorry, Comrades, but Americans haven't the stomach for liberty. Slaves never do.

Arwr

Makes me wish I had invested in ALCOA.

Richard's $.02

[Arwr]

Holy $hit, I am getting double teamed by John Wayne. I repent, I'm sorry Duke. I didn't mean any of it. Really. LMAO.

Arwr