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Old 05-23-2007, 11:50   #16
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UK Lesson Plan Concerns Muslim Educators

By RAPHAEL G. SATTER
Associated Press Writer

LONDON (AP) -- Britain is funding a curriculum aimed at teaching children in Muslim religious schools how to steer clear of extremism, but some of the lessons are worrying Muslim educators.

One lesson plan goes something like this: A group of Islamic extremists want to buy fertilizer that could be used to make a bomb. Should the shop keeper sell it to them? Or take Ahmad, whose friends want to attack a local supermarket in retaliation for the war in Iraq. Is it right for Ahmad to harm innocent Britons because their government invaded a Muslim country?
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:00   #17
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found multiple sources

I thought this was pure BS until I started searching and found multiple sources with the same article.....

Teaching the young muslims to be future terrorists such an admirable cause!

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Government-backed program to teach British citizenship lessons in Muslim religious school
Wednesday, May 23, 2007
By RAPHAEL G. SATTER
Associated Press Writer
LONDON (AP) Britain is funding a curriculum aimed at teaching children in Muslim religious schools how to steer clear of extremism, but some of the lessons are worrying Muslim educators.

One lesson plan goes something like this: A group of Islamic extremists want to buy fertilizer that could be used to make a bomb. Should the shop keeper sell it to them? Or take Ahmad, whose friends want to attack a local supermarket in retaliation for the war in Iraq. Is it right for Ahmad to harm innocent Britons because their government invaded a Muslim country?

The curriculum's answer in both cases is no, but the fact that these scenarios are being considered at all has prompted concern among Muslim teachers, who question whether they are appropriate for young students.

Some also feel insulted that the program appears to make the assumption that the religious schools or, madrassas are teeming with budding terrorists.

``In an educational setting, those propositions are a bit stark,'' said Tahir Alam, chair of the Muslim Council of Britain's education committee.

The British government acknowledged that the curriculum raised sensitive issues, but said they were needed to give Muslims the practical skills they needed to reject extremism.

``The project ensures that young Muslim students learn the true teachings of Islam,'' said a spokeswoman for the Department of Communities and Local Government, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with government policy.

``There will be difficult issues and scenarios to discuss but it would be wrong to shy away from them,'' she said.

Ten Muslim clerics have been teaching the lessons in six madrassas and a school in Bradford a religiously diverse city about 200 miles north of London. About 500 students have already completed the course, versions of which the communities department hopes to roll out nationally to some of Britain's 100,000 madrassa students.

The project, called ``Nasiha,'' or ``guidance,'' draws on the Quran, Shariah law, and traditional Muslim scholarship to show that British laws are in harmony with Islamic values. Its lessons will be taught in madrassas, which in Britain are usually unregulated after-school programs based in mosques or private homes.

The stated objective is to teach children, most between the ages of eight and 14, ``to realize that to harm or terrorize citizens in the UK is not something permitted in Islam,'' and ``to be able to identify individuals or groups who preach hatred and learn ways of avoiding them.''

While some of the lessons cover day-to-day situations such as bullying or good manners, others are explicitly aimed at defusing Muslims anger over the war in Iraq.

Teachers are asked to remind their students that some of their schoolmates may be in the military, and that as citizens ``they should take an active role for their safe return in what many may consider an unjust war.''

A homework assignment asks students to list ``some of the peaceful things you can do to show you are not happy about your country going to war.''

One counterterrorism expert had mixed feelings about the project.

``One lesson from school is not going to change fundamental attitudes,'' said Peter Neumann, the director of the Center for Defense Studies at King's College, London. But as part of a broader strategy, he said, the lessons could play a valuable role in getting Muslims to place more trust in the British authorities.

``Whether (or not) that's the right way of approaching kids, in principle it's not a bad idea to say: 'Actually, you can trust the authorities. If there is someone talking about jihad, then police is the place you should go to.'''

Sajid Hussain, the program's project manager, said the lessons needed to be taught.

``They were issues young people definitely needed some direction on: For example, whether young Muslims have a responsibility to prevent harm in society when they know that older Muslims may plan something,'' he said.

The curriculum, which is due to be published as a book in December, was still open to amendments, he said, acknowledging that some of the examples like the fertilizer bomb were a little too explicit.

``Originally we thought it would be best to start looking at these issues a little bit head-on,'' he said, ``but we're dealing with the issues a little more tactfully.''

The Nasiha curriculum has received about $198,000 in government money as part of a larger program intended to fight extremism in the Muslim community.

Outside of the East London Mosque, one of the city's largest, opinion was broadly favorable to the idea of lessons to counter extremism.

``The terrorists try to brainwash the young because they are vulnerable,'' said Asef Zia, 45. whose son, Muhammad, clutched at his shirt.

``Muslims are good people,'' said Muhammad, 12. ``But some bad people say they are Muslims and act wrong and we can teach them.''

http://www.kcbs.com/topic/ap_news.ph...gAgainstTerror

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...nst-Terror.php
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:42   #18
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Ok, next stop for this bus will probably be the San Francisco School system... a sad, sad thought. I'm all for teaching comparative religions, not preaching, teaching the major tenents of them, so that kids are informed - but this is just going too far. Maybe the Irish Catholic Schools can teach a history of the Reformation to try to scale back the 400 year old 'civil'(?) war; and the Protestant schools can teach a History of Catholicism to try from their side?

Bureaucrats, Psychologists, Lawyers and do-gooders are going to completely ruin the world (no offense to the esteemed counsel who are members of this board) by trying to make everything a level playing field.

just my .02, YMMV
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:54   #19
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From the BBC

Another angle on the story
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6665317.stm

Imams to give citizenship lessons

Thousands of Muslim children attend madrasas after school
Mosques are being urged to provide citizenship lessons for the thousands of youngsters they see daily.
About 100,000 UK youngsters attend Islamic religious schools attached to mosques - madrasas - every day.

A new curriculum aims to tackle extremism and counter messages about perceived clashes between Islam and British culture.

It was drawn up by a group of mosques in Bradford and is being backed by the Communities Secretary Ruth Kelly.
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Old 05-23-2007, 12:59   #20
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Do we know where tomorrow's suicide bombers will come from? Here in the US?

Picked this link up from another site; the Jerusaleum Post, and I see it's getting picked up elsewhere by MSM. Here's the complete report from the Pew Research Center, published just yesterday.

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