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USAREC MSG 11-228
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141600 September 2011 (EST) USAREC MESSAGE 11-228
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From: Headquarters USAREC
To: All Recruiting Personnel

SUBJECT: Special Forces Enlistment Program. (Updated)

1. THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE MESSAGE; DELIVER TO ALL RECRUITING PERSONNEL.

2. This message is valid for 2 years from date of publication, unless rescinded
or superseded.

3. References:

a. Army Regulation 601-210, Active and Reserve Component Enlistment
Program, dated 8 Feb 2011, (with operational changes), dated 14 Jun 2011.

b. Memorandum from ODCSPER, SUBJECT: Special Forces Recruiting Initiative
Implementation Guidance, dated 8 December 1999.

c. USAREC Messages 10-119, Special Forces Enlistment Program. (Rescinded)

4. Effective immediately, the requirement to take the Defense Language Aptitude
Battery (DLAB) at the MEPS for enlistment into MOS 18X is suspended. All new
recruits are given the opportunity to take the DLAB while at Fort Bragg, NC.

5. Soldiers who want to volunteer for the Special Forces may enlist under
Program 9A, U.S. Army Training Enlistment Program, Option 3 (U.S. Army Training
of Choice Enlistment Option), Surrogate Military Occupational Specialty (MOS) of
18X (SF Recruit). Individuals, both non-prior (NPS) and prior service (PS), must
be eligible to enlist and meet all additional prerequisites listed below:

a. Must be 20 years of age by graduation of CMF 11 One Station Unit Training
(OSUT) and have not reached their 30th birthday prior to ship date.

b. Qualified for, and volunteer for airborne training (must have airborne
stamp on physical).

c. Must be a U.S. Citizen.

d. Minimum scores of 107 GT and 98 CO.

e. High School Diploma Graduate (Tier 1). HSSR/ENRL applicants are not
authorized enlistment into CMF 18X.

f. One year of college is preferred, but is not mandatory for enlistment.

g. Must be eligible for a SECRET clearance.

h. All NPS applicants must successfully complete the Pre-Basic Training
Task List (USAREC Form 1137). ALL NPS and PS applicants must take and pass the
Army Physical Fitness Test (APFT) with minimum scores of 60 points in each event.
The APFT must be administered within 30 days prior to ship date. Forward a copy
of DA Fm 705 (Army Physical Fitness Test Scorecard) and the USAREC Fm 1137 to
guidance counselor shop for verification for accelerated promotion. Individuals
will be enlisted in pay grade E-3 (based on HQDA exception for this option).
Those individuals who fail any event of the APFT or the Pre-Basic Training Task
List will have their contract renegotiated and will only be authorized advanced
promotion based on provisions of AR 601-210.

6. Individuals (NPS, DOS/PS who require retraining) will enlist under Option 3
(U.S. Army Training of Choice Enlistment Option), MOS 18X, will ship to Fort
Benning, GA and follow the training path listed below:

a. In-processing through the Reception Battalion.

b. OSUT for MOS 11X. Soldiers must achieve an Army Physical Fitness Test
(APFT) score of 229 with a minimum of 60 points in each event upon completion of
OSUT.

c. Airborne training.

d. Special Operations Preparatory & Conditioning (SOPC) Course (Fort Bragg,
NC). This course is two weeks in duration, consisting of physical conditioning,
land navigation, and small unit team building. Individuals will be required to
meet Special Forces (SF) selection and eligibility criteria as outlined in AR
614-200, Chapter 5.5. Individuals must obtain an electrocardiogram (EKG) prior
to their arrival at SOPC Course.

7. Individuals already holding primary MOS of 11B (DOS/PS) who are not airborne
qualified, Guidance Counselors must contact the ROC for assistance.

8. Those individuals already MOS qualified as 11B and airborne qualified, will
enlist under Option 03 (U.S. Army Training of Choice Enlistment Option) with
reclassification into 18X. Those individuals must be eligible for a SECRET
clearance. The Soldiers will ship to Ft. Benning, GA and complete in processing
and then at that time will take the Special Forces Physical. Contact ROC for any
required assistance.

9. Once Soldiers meet all the criteria, they will be scheduled for SOPC at
Ft. Bragg and then continue on to the Special Forces Assessment and Selection
Course (SFAS) (3 weeks 3 days) as outlined in DA Pam 351-4.

10. Individuals who successfully complete SFAS, will be assigned to Special
Operations Command until scheduled for Special Forces Qualification Course
(SFQC).

11. Guidance counselors will use REQUEST MOS 18X when using this program.
Counselors will ensure that proper entries are made on DD Form 1966 series and
that the Dynamic Annexes from GCRc, both at DEP-In and DEP-Out (appropriate forms
IAW UR 601-96 for DOS/PS).

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USAREC MSG 11-038
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161700 November 2010 (EST) USAREC MESSAGE 11-038
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From: Headquarters USAREC
To: All Recruiting Personnel

SUBJECT: Elimination of The Warrior Transition Course (WTC)

1. THIS IS AN IMMEDIATE MESSAGE; deliver to all recruiting personnel.

2. This message is effective for two years from the date of message unless
rescinded or superseded.

3. References:

a. AR 350-1, Army Training and Leader Development, 18 December 2009.

b. AR 601-210, Army Regulation 601-210, Regular Army and Army Reserve
Enlistment Program, (with operational changes), dated 7 June 2007.

c. AR 635-200, Personnel Separations Active Duty Enlisted Administrative
Separations, 6 June 2005.

d. USAREC Message 09-096, All Prior Service Enlistments (RA and AR), to
include Blue to Green applicants, that are required to attend WTC, will take a
MEPS physical, dated 3 April 2009. (Rescinded)

e. USAREC Message 09-168, APFT requirement for Warrior Transition Course
(WTC) Attendees, dated 22 September 2009. (Rescinded)

f. USAREC Message 09-173, APFT requirement for Warrior Transition Course
(WTC) Attendees. (Rescinded)

g. USAREC Message 10-009, Warrior Transition Course (WTC) Video, dated 22
October 2009. (Rescinded)

h. USAREC Message 10-021, Operation Blue to Green Enlistment Program, dated
6 November 2009.

i. USAREC Message, 10-086, Rescheduling procedures for Army Reserve (AR)
Warrior Transition Course (WTC), dated 1 March 2010. (Rescinded)

j. USAREC Message 10-192, Changes to Regular Army and Army Reserve Prior
Service Training Requirements.

4. Purpose: To disseminate guidance regarding elimination of WTC and the way
ahead for Initial Entry Training (IET) of Prior Service (PS) Personnel accessing
into the Army.

5. Effective 01 January 2011, TRADOC Will no longer conduct WTC. Basic Combat
Training (BCT) will replace WTC as the method to train PS personnel.

6. Break in service (BIS) as addressed in AR 350-1, Paragraph 3-25, is further
clarified:

Military service (Regular Army (RA), Army National Guard (ANG), Army Reserve
(AR), US Marine Corps (USMC), and Special Operations Forces) includes time in
the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) and BIS begins after the Military Service
Obligation (MSO) ends.

7. The following attendance policy applies to personnel accessing into the RA
with PS in the Army, USMC, Air Force (USAF) Special Operations, Navy (USN)
Special Operations or Personnel who have completed an Army or USMC BCT:

a. PS personnel with less than three years BIS and same/comparable Military
Occupational Specialty (MOS) report directly to their unit of assignment.

b. PS personnel with less than three years BIS and new/different MOS will
attend appropriate Advanced Individual Training (AIT) or appropriate specialty
training prior to unit of assignment.

c. PS personnel with more than three years BIS regardless of MOS will
attend BCT and then attend the appropriate AIT or appropriate specialty training
prior to unit of assignment.

8. PS personnel accessing into the RA with PS in the USAF, USN or Coast Guard
(excluding Special Operations Forces) who have not completed an Army or USMC
BCT, and regardless of length of BIS will:

a. with same/comparable MOS attend BCT prior to unit of assignment.

b. with new/different MOS attend BCT then attend appropriate AIT or
appropriate specialty training prior to unit of assignment.

9. PS personnel accessing into the AR will follow the below guidelines:

a. PS personnel accessing into the AR with PS in the RA, USMC, USAF, USN
and personnel that have completed an Army or USMC BCT will report directly to
their unit of assignment.

b. PS personnel accessing into AR with PS in the USAF, USN or Coast Guard
and/or who have not completed an Army or USMC BCT will attend BCT prior to unit
of assignment.

Thanks for the gouge. I've had some awful luck on the officer side of the house, and am lining up my shot to come over to y'all as an enlisted guy instead.

QPs, ever heard of someone doing this? I've already been through SFAS, but more than 3 years will have elapsed once I get to Bragg. I reckon I'll have to take selection again...this time, with no safety net.

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Originally Posted by Surgicalcric (Post 419699)

The 18X option is off the table for prior-service candidates in the NG.

You can however enlist in the NG, possibly even into one of the NG SF companies, then after you are ready, attend SFAS and start the SFQC shortly thereafter. There are plenty of threads here addressing the prior-service to NG SF process.

Let us know if you have any remaining questions.

Crip

There is a MEDEVAC NG unit in Phoenix. I would guess that would be a pretty easy way with your skill set to get your foot in the door guard side.

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Originally Posted by Oso (Post 437095)

There is a MEDEVAC NG unit in Phoenix. I would guess that would be a pretty easy way with your skill set to get your foot in the door guard side.

Are you referring to my getting my foot in the door with the NG?

I would hope that with having been on an ODA in the NG for 4-1/2 years I would have more than my foot in the door. :D

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Originally Posted by Surgicalcric (Post 437146)

Are you referring to my getting my foot in the door with the NG?

I would hope that with having been on an ODA in the NG for 4-1/2 years I would have more than my foot in the door. :D

It seems you have no door left to go through - broken at the hinges perhaps.

I was referring to the OP's possibility of going guard to get to SFAS.

Oso:

Read the "Special Forces Questions" sticky at the top of this thread.

Do you have some SF experience we are unaware of?

TR

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Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 437184)

Oso:

Read the "Special Forces Questions" sticky at the top of this thread.

Do you have some SF experience we are unaware of?

TR

No, I don't. Sorry for the intrusion.