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View Poll Results: How do you rack it?
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Slide release strong hand
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Over the top of the slide with weak hand
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Pinch grip the slide with weak hand
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Other (specify)
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Shutup Doc
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11-13-2006, 14:36
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Change is hard.
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Especially when launched from a slingshot or a wrist-rocket, those quarters can do some damage. (sorry TR, couldn't resist, and well, they are weapons....) 
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11-13-2006, 15:06
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Too old to change. Insert new mag, hit slide release, and go back on target. I've got a factory worked Colt Commander I've been shooting for longer than I can remember.
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11-13-2006, 16:45
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1911
Put about 1000 rounds thru it and only had miss feeds with the same Mag. But it was a different type of mag. The cheap one that came with the gun. Since I stopped using that mag I haven't had any problems. Don't have it with me, I will let you know what Mags I purchased that have been working fine. Best out of the box gun I ever fired. Think my other Guns will be collecting dust for awhile. It was also mentioned before to go with racking the slide because it is what you will do for a malfunction, good point TR. I am teaching the Coast Guard for a few weeks and will be using the Beretta M9, What a fall back this is going to be.
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11-13-2006, 18:04
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Originally Posted by kgoerz
Ok after using all these new High Speed Pistols out on the market. I finally bought a Kimber Desert Warrior 1911. I posted this question on another board, but want to see what you guys have to say. They kind of high jacked the thread. For a Speed reload (Gun go's dry and you have to insert a new mag) Is it better to reach over the top with the weak hand and rack the slide to chamber a new round (Like most Glock users) or use your weak hand to hit the slide release as you bring your hand up to re-grip the pistol after inserting a fresh Mag. My muscle memory has me reaching over the top with the weak hand and pulling back on the slide to release it and chamber a new round. I want to stay with what I know already, but it feels weird reaching over the top on a 1911. What is the preferred method of the two, or is it user preference???
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I presume you are talking about a slide that is locked to the rear?
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11-13-2006, 18:06
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Your partner in crime started a thread on this topic a long time ago, and I seem to recall it went on forever. I am on Blackberry, but I'll merge this into it if I can find it.
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11-13-2006, 18:22
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I presume you are talking about a slide that is locked to the rear?
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Yes, he is. He's out for a day two. He'll be along eventually.
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11-13-2006, 19:51
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I'm missing something........
You go dry, you reach for the full mag with the weak hand, insert the mag with the weak hand and then hit the slide lock with the strong hand, regripping with the weak hand as the weapon returns to a level position.
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11-13-2006, 19:57
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He can't reach it without changing his grip. Anyway, I'll let him answer, it's his question.
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11-13-2006, 21:06
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He can't reach it without changing his grip. Anyway, I'll let him answer, it's his question.
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We all change our grip for a few nano seconds.
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11-14-2006, 06:05
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Slide release strong hand, way ive learned with M-9 so i do it with every pistol
weak hand rack only used for clearing jams.
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11-14-2006, 06:14
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Slide release strong hand, way ive learned with M-9 so i do it with every pistol
weak hand rack only used for clearing jams.
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I agree with this.
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11-14-2006, 07:30
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My .02 cents
I voted over the top weak hand but I practice both over the top weak hand and strong hand slide release. For me the strong hand slide release requires less movement but more fine motor skills while the over the top weak hand requires significantly more movemnet of the gross motor type. Since most of my shooting is "stress" shooting gross motor skills are easier. Under stress that dang slide release can get very small.
No way do I count rounds.
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11-14-2006, 18:13
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How do you do it?
Yes, slide locked to the rear. But the question was only for the 1911 where it is difficult to hit the slide release with the strong hand like on the M9 and Glock. I am going with reaching over the top (sling shot) since this is how I speed reload with most pistols when I have slide lock back because the Mag has run dry. Just the 1911 no other models. The question basically is it tactically ok to sling shot the slide on a 1911 by reaching over the top with your weak hand after inserting a fresh Mag.
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11-14-2006, 18:23
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Slide release strong hand, way ive learned with M-9 so i do it with every pistol
weak hand rack only used for clearing jams.
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What if youre a lefty, or as in my case forced to shoot lefty?
Crip
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11-14-2006, 18:30
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What if youre a lefty, or as in my case forced to shoot lefty?
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Why are you forced?
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