Are we at war with Islam?

[Team Sergeant]

We should create a map of where islam is at war with other nations/peoples..... I don't believe the sheeple realize how many current worldwide conflicts involve islam and muslims. I can only think of one place that islam has yet to create a conflict, Central and South America.

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

We should create a map of where islam is at war with other nations/peoples..... I don't believe the sheeple realize how many current worldwide conflicts involve islam and muslims. I can only think of one place that islam has yet to create a conflict, Central and South America.

Good idea TS I was appalled (not surprised) at the Islamist attack on a Buddhist temple last week. Buddhists for godsake!

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Trapper John

Good idea TS I was appalled (not surprised) at the Islamist attack on a Buddhist temple last week. Buddhists for godsake!

Exactly my point. The world has no idea that most of the current conflicts and "terrorist" attacks are being carried out by muslims on behalf of allah.

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Exactly my point. The world has no idea that most of the current conflicts and "terrorist" attacks are being carried out by muslims on behalf of allah.

As a point of clarification, in future posts I suggest we use the following lexicon: Islamist to mean the followers of Islam. Muslim to mean the worshipers of Allah but not necessarily followers of Muhammad and therefor not Islamist.

I am not sure if that is or even can be generally accepted, but it seems to me that there is a segment of the Muslim world that are not followers of Islam and Muhammad. They are not, or at least appear not, to condone the actions of the Islamists. There seems to be a natural rift occurring along those lines. Promoting such a lexicon may be a way of promoting and/or hastening the rift.

Promoting the notion that we are at war with Islam also will hasten the rift IMO.

Just thought I would throw that out there and see what everyone thinks - PRB???

[hotshot]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

We should create a map of where islam is at war with other nations/peoples..... I don't believe the sheeple realize how many current worldwide conflicts involve islam and muslims. I can only think of one place that islam has yet to create a conflict, Central and South America.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-11...2hhrg72255.pdf

V/R,

CH

[T-Rock]

As a point of clarification, in future posts I suggest we use the following lexicon: Islamist to mean the followers of Islam. Muslim to mean the worshipers of Allah but not necessarily followers of Muhammad and therefor not Islamist.

I am not sure if that is or even can be generally accepted, but it seems to me that there is a segment of the Muslim world that are not followers of Islam and Muhammad. They are not, or at least appear not, to condone the actions of the Islamists. There seems to be a natural rift occurring along those lines. Promoting such a lexicon may be a way of promoting and/or hastening the rift.

Promoting the notion that we are at war with Islam also will hasten the rift IMO.

Just thought I would throw that out there and see what everyone thinks - PRB???

For some reason the following posts came to mind when I read your suggestion Sir:

> http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...9&postcount=10
> http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ad.php?t=25244

[Stobey]

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

We should create a map of where islam is at war with other nations/peoples..... I don't believe the sheeple realize how many current worldwide conflicts involve islam and muslims. I can only think of one place that islam has yet to create a conflict, Central and South America.

Concur. "Yet" is the operative word here. Just wait until demographics start to shift - by "converts" and by their secret weapon. (see below)

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by T-Rock

For some reason the following posts came to mind when I read your suggestion Sir:

> http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...9&postcount=10
> http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ad.php?t=25244

EXACTLY This goes hand-in-hand with what I have being saying about the virtue of Intolerance.

I suggest that is time for us to begin the first steps of a counter insurgency (COIN) operation - information dissemination.

What about taking this into a Blog? We could write articles like the ones Warrior-Mentor posted, the map that Team Sergeant suggested, and more.

We could set up an editorial board to review and edit suggested articles before they are posted.

Think about it, this is how the American Revolution started - Federalist Papers and the like. We can do this again and we saw the effect we could have with the 2nd A letter.

We are Special Forces and this is what we do very, very well!

[Trapper John]

Originally Posted by hotshot

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-11...2hhrg72255.pdf

V/R,

CH

[Trapper John]

And so it goes - http://weaselzippers.us/2013/07/16/m...tate-of-jihad/

[Streck-Fu]

Don't report a rape in Dubai.....LINK

Woman jailed for reporting rape
July 17, 2013

A Norwegian woman who reported to police in Dubai that she’d been raped while on a business trip in the fast-growing Gulf city ended up being jailed herself. Her sentence is longer than her convicted rapist’s.

The 25-year-old’s trip to Dubai in March turned into a nightmare after she reported the rape and was jailed for having had sex outside of marriage and for drinking alcohol. Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported that her passport was seized and she wasn’t allowed to borrow a telephone for three days. Then she called her family in Norway.

They mobilized the Foreign Ministry, and Norway’s consulate in Dubai managed to get her out of jail and housed at the local Norwegian Seamans Church, where she remained until her sentence recently was handed down: prison for one year and four months. Her attacker was sentenced to one year and one month, Anniken Meling of the Seamans Church told NRK.

The foreign ministry reported that Norway has no extradition treaty with Dubai, which was described as a Muslim police state. That means tourists and visitors are usually safe as long as they follow local laws. They include laws against extra-marital sex and drinking outside of restaurants and bars in the biggest hotels, leaving rape victims vulnerable. An appeal was pending.

[bassbuckeye]

As a Psyop guy I can't wait to read this book.......but of course the Russians created this Islamic environment with a "disinformation" campaign like no other

By 1972, Andropov's disinformation machinery was working around the clock to persuade the Islamic world that the U.S. intended to transform the rest of the world into a Zionist fiefdom. He wanted us to convince Muslims that the U.S. Congress was a "Council of the Elders of Zion" which conspired to have the Jews take over the world. If we whipped up Muslim anti-Semitism, then terrorism and violence against Israel and America would naturally follow.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/...#ixzz2ZQ6HIxkQ

[T-Rock]

As a Psyop guy I can't wait to read this book.......but of course the Russians created this Islamic environment with a "disinformation" campaign like no other

Looks like an interesting read….

However, regarding the United States, and Islamic terrorism - if Andropov thought their disinformation campaign was successful, a question I would like to ask him would be why did the Jihadists attack us in 1783, only 7 years following the declaration of independence, before anyone had a chance to touch off any sort of disinformation campaign against the US?


Another book that you may find of interest is called “The Lie That Wouldn’t Die: The Protocol of the Elders of Zion”
http://www.amazon.com/The-Lie-That-W.../dp/0853035954

[bassbuckeye]

Originally Posted by T-Rock

Looks like an interesting read….

However, regarding the United States, and Islamic terrorism - if Andropov thought their disinformation campaign was successful, a question I would like to ask him would be why did the Jihadists attack us in 1783, only 7 years following the declaration of independence, before anyone had a chance to touch off any sort of disinformation campaign against the US?


Another book that you may find of interest is called “The Lie That Wouldn’t Die: The Protocol of the Elders of Zion”
http://www.amazon.com/The-Lie-That-W.../dp/0853035954

Thanks! I'll check it out..................I think the book about Russia's campaign may be a bit of a puff piece BUT seeing as how we may have exploited Jihad in the 80's in A stan it may be that they (Jihadists) are easy to manipulate into violence......go figure

[Trapper John]

“The nexus between Arab charities promoting Wahabi and Salafi traditions and the extremist Islamic movements has emerged as one of the major threats to people and governments across the globe. From Syria, Mali, Afghanistan and Pakistan to Indonesia in the East, a network of charities is funding militancy and mayhem to coerce Muslims of diverse traditions to conform to the Salafi and Wahabi traditions. The same networks have been equally destructive as they branch out of Muslim countries and attack targets in Europe and North America.”

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakista...#ixzz2ZcZvJywA