09-07-2010, 13:41
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... I've never gone, but I've never felt the need to bag on anyone for wanting to go, because sometimes you'd be surprised at who's tough enough to make it through...
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Like who?
This post is SO Cute.
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09-08-2010, 13:00
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Like who?
This post is SO Cute.
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Not trying to piss anyone off here. I'm saying sometimes the guys you don't expect to go out for it do, and make it with flying colors and that for what some lack in some areas, they make up for it in heart. That's all.
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09-08-2010, 13:09
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People who hate on others for going to selection are just jealous. Every single one of them. I've never gone, but I've never felt the need to bag on anyone for wanting to go, because sometimes you'd be surprised at who's tough enough to make it through.
Let the haters hate, and let it motivate you. I love when someone tells me I can't do something, it makes me work even harder for it.
Keep on keepin' on, bro, and I'm sure you'll make it.
As far as "Regular Army" hating SF, I know as a support guy, I've encountered people from conventional units. A lot of support guys get a lot of shit because of other support guys who have painted us in a negative light. I remember when we were attached to 5th SFG, this E-4 from 5th told a 101st officer to "Fuck off, I'm from 5th group". That's obviously the wrong answer. The key is to just mind your surroundings when you're wearing a Group patch and respect the rules of the land around you, because they're waiting for you to do something fucked up or have something look fucked up on your uniform.
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I know I have had a **few** support guys at 5TH try the whole I am **with group/team so and so ** with me .I always found it strange they would lie ,considering such a small town ,small community . 
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09-08-2010, 13:18
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I know I have had a **few** support guys at 5TH try the whole I am **with group/team so and so ** with me .I always found it strange they would lie ,considering such a small town ,small community . |
Agreed, I don't see the point in lying. You just get caught and made to look foolish.
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09-08-2010, 13:43
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For those posting here who do not seem to have a question, is this sticky from the top of this forum unclear?
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ad.php?t=22758
TR
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09-09-2010, 16:50
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09-11-2010, 20:34
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I'm really not sure how alot of SF guys feel but I believe we are/were part of the same army and I considered them my brothers like everybody else who wore green. I've read in some books that a Special Forces soldier may feel more of a brotherhood with lets say a SEAL than someone who is in a conventional army unit. It would be nice if one of you quiet professionals gave some insight on whether this is true or not?
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09-13-2010, 07:14
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I think that is something just about anybody can figure out.
You say you have done reading on the subject.
Do some thinking on it.
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09-23-2010, 06:14
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I had to go back and re-read this entire thread...yesterday I had the unique opportunity to sit through a selection board at Mackall for our future SFQC students. I am continually impressed with what individuals put themselves through in order to get into the door.
My observation, reinforced by cadre, is that the regular Army does not mind getting those that do not get selected. They get Soldiers that already know how to push themselves. This, obviously, is different than the Soldiers that willingly quit.
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09-23-2010, 06:20
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I am wondering, but could also maybe the name cause some dislike amongst regular army? Special Forces...?
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They didn't seem to mind Special Services...
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09-23-2010, 06:29
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I am wondering, but could also maybe the name cause some dislike amongst regular army? Special Forces...?
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We could change it to " Exceptional". That seemed to work in public schools.
Just so we still get to go to the zoo when the regular kids don't. Yup, yup, yup, yup. . . 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTGc_oLgwGY
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09-23-2010, 06:37
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If we were like everyone else our tab would say Normal Forces.
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09-23-2010, 06:46
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There is an 18Z, on PS.com who once told me, "when 9/11 went down, my co-workers, (civilians), asked, 'what are we going to do?"
The following dialogue went something like this...
Tm Sgt: We're going to war.
Co-workers: You want to go to war? We hear that real soldiers don't want to fight, but fight they will when all other options have been exhausted.
Tm Sgt: No, there are soldiers who train for this every day, keeping weapons ready, knives sharp and rucksacks packed. In fact, we compete to see who's getting on the bus.
When I was told this, I laughed out loud. That's when Tm Sgt, said, "I'd shoot you in the leg just to take your spot."
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09-23-2010, 07:41
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Rangers, by that I mean the Regiment, have had a love/hate relationship with us for years. Primarily because their "best" tended to migrate over to our side of the Army. Of course we in SF felt the same way at times towards our brothers in some of our more unique units. It's funny to me how some of the "Rangers" I've met in group used to whine about how much better it was in 1/75, 2/75, etc...yet there has never been a mass exodus of people going back after a deployment or two. Something about a TDY voucher, a pallet of gear, an expectation of performance in the absence of a "command" element, I could go on, but I think you get the idea.
I don't think the animosity is due to our name...afterall, before we had a designated Special Operations Force, i.e. Rangers...we were designated Special Forces. The three lightening bolts on our patch is for Sea, Air and Land...yet we don't "hate" the SEALs for having that moniker....although we often wonder where the training comes from to keep that ball on their nose.
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10-06-2010, 11:52
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There right now
I had to let my detailer and CO know I was going blue to green last week. That was bad enough. Then I requested liberty for the SFRE and the shit hit the fan. The only way to look at it is a challenge to overcome. Senior 18A I talked to said this, "Those that can't, won't support." It seems to just be a fact of life.
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