Survive! - Page 7

**Team Sergeant** · 10-11-2005, 14:27

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Originally Posted by ZoneOne

Thanks for the post longtab,

Like I said, the episode we are referring to was terrible compared to the rest. Other episodes show greater skill and knowledge, but I retract my statement of claiming him as an expert.

Its the same reason they don't place Rangers, SEALS and Special Forces personnel on "Fear Factor", it would get real boring not being able to "scare" anyone.

longtab · 10-11-2005, 14:54

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Originally Posted by ZoneOne

Survival skills are something I enjoy learning and practicing, so I have taken a liking to this show simply because it's actually something to watch on t.v. compared to all the crap. I think though, he may "dumb down" his show to give the average joe an idea of what it would really be like. Maybe, just a thought

If you've got time, keep watching, you may or may not find humor in watching him try and "survive"

I'm more of a Playboy's The Girls Next Door guy myself, but I will definately tune in and see what Survivor-Man does to himself next.

ZoneOne · 10-11-2005, 15:24

Its the same reason they don't place Rangers, SEALS and Special Forces personnel on "Fear Factor", it would get real boring not being able to "scare" anyone

I think they did have a Ranger on once and he failed at the eating "nasty stuff" contest. Maybe I'm just making stuff up in my head

Also - it was a couple of years ago - but there was a T.V. show I think aired on USA that had Navy SEALs preforming fake operations and stuff like that.
All I remember is Cade Courtley

Edit

upon a quick search I found the name - "Combat Missions"

BTW I appreciate all the replies and information given

HOLLiS · 10-11-2005, 20:31

Zone, I like TV and Movies too, BUT!! They are made for entertainment and any actual connection to reality is purely accidental. Yes, even the news is entertainment.

frostfire · 10-12-2005, 22:03

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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant

Its the same reason they don't place Rangers, SEALS and Special Forces personnel on "Fear Factor", it would get real boring not being able to "scare" anyone.

concur.
If anyone try applying for the show, there's a long and detailed screening questionnaire asking for prior service, origins etc.

I'd imagine they will also reject participants coming from rural areas of Udon Thani or Guangzhou. When it comes to eating the nasty stuff, these folks might ask for seconds, take the other participants share, or get a go-box. Then they'd be disqualified for not having the "factor"

stakk4 · 10-14-2005, 13:48

Actually right now they are casting for a "Military" episode of Fear Factor. They are looking for 1M-1F teams of AD from any brach of service. They don't mention any restrictions on SF or Rangers, etc. Although one team member does have to be female, it doesn't say that they have to have been in the same unit. So I suppose it should be conceivable for a team guy and a support chick, fresh back from the sandbox, could compete together. Reminder: a team is only as strong as its weakest link.

I'll watch that one though.

S

mbassoc2003 · 11-03-2005, 10:21

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Originally Posted by Maple Flag

My kit (real life) that helps to support the above activities:

1 L Nalgen bottle, containing inside:
Chlorine Water Purification drops
Day/Night signal mirror
Survival reflective blanket
Cordage
Folding knife
Wire Saw
Lighters (2)
Matches
Magnesium fire starter
Soup and Sugar Cubes (looking to improve here)
Fishing Kit
Sewing kit
Button compass

I'm looking to replace the Nalgene bottle with a metal container with a screw lid that I can boil water in.

Salt and pepper sachets from takeaway restaurants are useful. Salt becaust your body loses it faster than you realise, and you'll need to replace it. Pepper because you may beed to flavour some critter before you eat it.

I carry a couple of roaster or microwave bags. The type you put a chicken in before you stick it in the oven. You can cary water in them and you can boil water in them over a fire. You might also want to mark the bag with 1 and 2 litre lines around it so you know where to fill it to before popping in your tabs/drops.

**The Reaper** · 11-03-2005, 13:30

mbassoc2003:

Introduce yourself in the Introductions thread and fill out your profile, if you would.

Thanks.

TR

Spook · 11-06-2005, 21:09

I think this thread is VERY informative. Great job on starting the discussion Reaper.

I'm reading through everyone else's responses first to see if I can come up with some new items before I post my list.

Will enjoy reading on...

mugwump · 11-11-2005, 15:01

Hey all, first post after my intro.

An old bush pilot once told me that knowledge of how to make a fish trap and a dozen locking snares were worth their weight in gold (he carried 36 in various sizes -- eating off of snares is a numbers game). Obviously not good for the tobacco tin/back pocket kit, but exactly right for the scenario The Reaper proposed. I have no idea who these guys are, I post the link just to show what I'm talking about. http://www.nwtrappers.com/catalog/snares/thompson.asp

A correctly sized locking snare can reliably take anything from squirrels and rabbits to deer.

Edited to add:

I remembered he also said a "drowner" was easier to make if you were going to carry brass wire and not pre-made locking snares. It was easier to find tracks by the water, and thereby sites for the trap, and you were less likely to lose your catch to a predator. He said a hole dug in the bank was irresistable to many animals. I never followed his advice to learn how to do this, but I did find --> http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/wildlife/PDF/chpt9.pdf

**The Reaper** · 11-11-2005, 21:14

You learn something every day.

I have never seen a drowner, great idea for fur, or traps that are checked regularly, but I doubt that meat would be very good if the animal had been dead underwater for a day ot two.

I was also surprised that a state government site tells how to trap and kill animals. You would think that PETA would have cried all over them or ALF would have burned down their website by now.

Thanks for the link!

TR

mugwump · 11-12-2005, 14:30

Hey, 7th SFGA, I assumed you'd be eating nutria -- and they like water.

The same old brush pilot carried a beater sawed off side-by-side with slugs, for bear, and an old Ted Williams single-shot .22 with longs for caribou. He said long rifles tore up too much meat. He was definitely a proponent of shot placement.

kgoerz · 11-12-2005, 15:41

Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
Its the same reason they don't place Rangers, SEALS and Special Forces personnel on "Fear Factor", it would get real boring not being able to "scare" anyone.

I remember a few years back when the reality shows starting getting big USASOC put out a message banning all AD personnel from applying for these shows. Do's anyone remember this message?

one-zero · 11-15-2005, 17:25

KGOERZ et al;
It's actually posted in the commander's policy section in ALL spec-ops units (Army)...Kept us out of some UFC/fighting venues as well. I do remember them using active duty 1st Grp assistance in setting up one of the "survivor" episodes though...just not as participants who could win some $$$
cheers

**Bill Harsey** · 11-15-2005, 22:18

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Originally Posted by one-zero

KGOERZ et al;
It's actually posted in the commander's policy section in ALL spec-ops units (Army)...Kept us out of some UFC/fighting venues as well. I do remember them using active duty 1st Grp assistance in setting up one of the "survivor" episodes though...just not as participants who could win some $$$
cheers

You guys get enough reality programing as it is without having to be on TV.

Had to ask my kids (5th year Latin students) what "et al" means. This place keeps making my head hurt learning new stuff.

Reaper,
Cold water in the north might help cool and keep meat edible while warm water wouldn't. I've never eaten fur or feathered game without a projectile hole in it.