Where's Bin Ladin?

[Pete S]

Here we go again:

Bin Laden urges Iraq insurgents to unite
Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:13pm EDT

DUBAI (Reuters) - Osama bin Laden called on insurgent groups in Iraq to unify their ranks, in an audio recording aired by Al Jazeera television on Monday.

"The interest of the Islamic nation surpasses that of a group," said the speaker who sounded like the leader of al Qaeda. "The strength of faith is in the strength of the bond between Muslims and not that of a tribe or nationalism..."

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...rpc=22&sp=true

[MardiGras]

Bin Ladin maybe dead. But then again that may be exactly what he wants us to think. He is definitely laying low and either living in a cave or buried in one. IMHO, it really does not matter. What does matter is the fact that these radical zealots who follow him are still out there and still looking to put a bulls eye on Uncle Sam's back. IMHO it is far more important to take apart his organizational infrastructure and disrupt his ability to plan and execute attacks than it is to capture him personally. Why? Because IMHO there will always be some nutjob, crackpot, who wants to impress the almighty with how well he can kill "infidels" (ie..you and me) on his behalf looking to become the leader. So if Bin Ladin gets bumped off it will not be too long before a new guy pops up with a video proclaiming he is jihadist numo uno. Don't get me wrong nothing would make me happier than seeing that SOB taken out, but I am just as anxious to see his followers laid low permanently.

[Team Sergeant]

Ten bucks says it just audio.......


bin laden is dead.......

For those that don't think bin laden is eating pork ribs in hell riddle me this, it's just as easy to smuggle out "Audio & Video" as it is "audio". Besides audio/video would be a whole lot more powerful for the spineless cowards watching.

bin laden is dead.......




Al-Sahab: Usama Bin Laden to Make 'Powerful Speech' to 'Islamic Nation'
Sunday, May 18, 2008

CAIRO, Egypt — The media wing of Al Qaeda says Usama Bin Laden soon will issue a new message addressed to the Islamic world.

Al-Sahab posted a banner Sunday on a militant Web site known for carrying the terror network's messages. It said a "powerful speech to the Islamic nation," will be issued soon.

The announcement comes after a message from Bin Laden on Friday marking the 60th anniversary of Israel's foundation in which he vowed to continue his struggle against the Jewish state.

Messages typically appear within 72 hours of being announced.






http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356526,00.html

[Red Flag 1]

TS

hope so!!

[BryanK]

This is second hand information from the MD AAG. My 1SG told us today that he was told in a meeting yesterday evening with th AAG, that there was "good intelligence" that OBL was hit in a raid of some sort in Pakistan. Has anyone else heard this?

[Team Sergeant]

Originally Posted by BryanK

This is second hand information from the MD AAG. My 1SG told us today that he was told in a meeting yesterday evening with th AAG, that there was "good intelligence" that OBL was hit in a raid of some sort in Pakistan. Has anyone else heard this?

Yeah, back in 2002

[sf11b_p]

Seems Senator Biden knows where OBL is...

September 22, 2008 6:19 PM

"Ladies and gentlemen, where are we now? Where are we now?" Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., said to the National Guard Association today, talking about the war in Afghanistan.

"If you want to know where Al Qaeda lives, you want to know where Bin Laden is, come back to Afghanistan with me," Biden said. "Come back to the area where my helicopter was forced down, with a three-star general and three senators at 10,500 feet in the middle of those mountains. I can tell you where they are."

Biden said that Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., "says he’ll follow them to the gates of hell. You don’t have to go to hell. Just go to Pakistan. Just go to that area. That superhighway of terror that exists between Afghanistan and Pakistan." - ABC News Blog

And earlier this month...

"What I care about is: What in God's name is she going to do -- along with John McCain -- about the thousands of people who don't have health care?" Biden asked. He'll ask her about "The superhighway of terror between Pakistan and Afghanistan where my helicopter was forced down...John McCain wants to know where Bin Ladin and the gates of Hell are? I can tell him where. That's where Al Quaida is. That's where Bin Ladin is. It's not in the country of Iraq." - September 10, 2008 Chicagl Sun Times

His helicopter forced down? Forced down, true, but by what...

In February 2008, Biden -- along with Sens. John Kerry, D-Mass., and Chuck Hagel, R-Neb. -- was on a chopper that made an emergency landing in the mountains of Afghanistan.

A snowstorm had forced them down.

No one was injured, and the Associated Press reported at the time that "the senators and their delegation returned to Bagram Air Base in a motor convoy, and left for Turkey.

"The weather closed in on us," Kerry told the AP at the time in a phone interview from Turkey. "It went pretty blind, pretty fast and we were around some pretty dangerous ridges. So the pilot exercised his judgment that we were better off putting down there, and we all agreed...We sat up there and traded stories."

Kerry joked, "We were going to send Biden out to fight the Taliban with snowballs, but we didn't have to do it…Other than getting a little cold, it was fine." - ABC News Blog

SNL can't write shit this funny.

[hoot72]

Has an actual recent video from OBL actually surfaced in the last few months that we haven't seen?

[charlietwo]

Originally Posted by The Reaper

That could be true, if he is alive.

I wonder how many voted for President Bush after OBL backed Kerry?

I do not think that he got the outcome he wanted, but could he have made a difference in getting the POTUS re-elected?

Does an attack on the US, threats, or violent rhetoric by terrorists favor the Dems chances, or the Repubs?

TR

I think at this point, a terrorist attack would still raise a cascade of pro-American/anti-Islam sentiment, and ensure a McCain/Palin victory. However, if the attack were arranged to look like a conspiracy, it would deal another deep wound in our psyche the moment the blogosphere and conspiracy theorists start drumming up ideas.

There is a major consensus outside of the United States and even within that the 'Zionists' are behind every major event, specifically terror attacks, simply to garner support for the state of Israel. With that atmosphere, it wouldn't take much extra planning to broaden the conspiracy theories against the US government, or her allies.

Just my 2c.

[LR27]

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/...unt/index.html

QP's, what do you think about Obama's stance on the hunt? Do you think it is realistic, or do you think he is going to have a reality check in January?

[Loadsmasher]

said Dalton Fury, the commander of special operations at Tora Bora.

Once again, CNN does it's usual great job of reporting the facts.
I can't tell if it's ignorance, little or no writting ability or willful mistatement that leads to quotes like the one above.

[JSE]

"I think it's important to understand that bin Laden had his chance at martyrdom. He was in the mountains of Tora Bora, he ran away. In my opinion, I think we ought to promote this," Fury said.

I find this to be a very interesting and unconventional approach...

[civilian]

Seems Pakistan has become a pretty hot AO. Press reporting over 30 strikes since Aug 2008. Seems for years now that OBL couldn't risk meeting any of his operational guys for fear of what they would disclose if captured. Just don't think even loyal elements of the ISI in Pakistan could continue to hide him. I've read Iran let OBL or at least his son stay there until the build up to the Iraq invasion. My guess is that he went back to Iran and is aided by certain elements of Iran's military or leadership. The agreement could have been that Iran would control what messages were released and when, as to keep us guessing to prevent any clues from pointing back to Iran. He may very well be buried somewhere in Iran by now. He had to have medical care and couldn't stay in a cave forever. Keeping us guessing about OBL helps to some degree distract from Iran's nuclear program. Iran probably thinks we are prevented from touching him there by our own politicans who would scream Bush is expanding the war without congressional approval. Only other country that has a history of hiding terrorists is Syria. However, I don't think they have the balls to try it and it's obvious no one is untouchable in Sryia. Find it hard to believe OBL hasn't sent out a message about Israel kicking the shit out of Hamas. The silence is deafening. I would think Iran would like that very much since they help fund Hamas. Anyway, I say he's dead in Iran.

[bailaviborita]

Dead- under rubble of caves in Pakistan. And I think it is better for us for AQ to keep on pretending he's alive without video proof or proof by mentioning current events in his audio. Martyr is better for AQ than "we think he's dead- but don't know", IMO.

I could just imagine them finding his dead body and parading it around, or someone capturing and the headache that will entail- especially in Pakistan, and we can't hold him- not with Gitmo going away, or him doing proof-positive he is alive. All that seems worse to me than if he is dead- but no-one can find him.

[LR27]

Originally Posted by civilian

Seems Pakistan has become a pretty hot AO. Press reporting over 30 strikes since Aug 2008. Seems for years now that OBL couldn't risk meeting any of his operational guys for fear of what they would disclose if captured. Just don't think even loyal elements of the ISI in Pakistan could continue to hide him. I've read Iran let OBL or at least his son stay there until the build up to the Iraq invasion. My guess is that he went back to Iran and is aided by certain elements of Iran's military or leadership. The agreement could have been that Iran would control what messages were released and when, as to keep us guessing to prevent any clues from pointing back to Iran. He may very well be buried somewhere in Iran by now. He had to have medical care and couldn't stay in a cave forever. Keeping us guessing about OBL helps to some degree distract from Iran's nuclear program. Iran probably thinks we are prevented from touching him there by our own politicans who would scream Bush is expanding the war without congressional approval. Only other country that has a history of hiding terrorists is Syria. However, I don't think they have the balls to try it and it's obvious no one is untouchable in Sryia. Find it hard to believe OBL hasn't sent out a message about Israel kicking the shit out of Hamas. The silence is deafening. I would think Iran would like that very much since they help fund Hamas. Anyway, I say he's dead in Iran.

Why do you believe he is in Iran? Most reports indicate he went east, not west. Most of Al-Qaeda are Sunni Baluchi fundamentalists, whereas the majority of Iran's government are Shi'a moderates, less conservative reformers of Islam. It is highly unlikely they would be working in conjunction, as their ideologies are starkly conflicting.