03-30-2006, 17:59
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You may know the family of this one...but it's not quite what it seems.
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Kalashnikov family, appears to be a Dragunov SVD/NDM/PSL/FPK, etc.
Since you said that it is not what it appears to be, and the pics do not show a lot of details, I would assume that it is some other Kalashnikov family member (to include the Valmet or Galil), dressed up to look like a Dragunov.
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03-30-2006, 18:08
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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Kalashnikov family, appears to be a Dragunov SVD/NDM/PSL/FPK, etc.
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Ok...not Kalishnikov family, there are quite a few folks who dress up PSL/FPKs - which use the Kalishnikov gas system - to look like Dragonuvs. a closer look at the barrel/piston will r/o that one for you
On the Dragunov family yes, I'm hoping the markings weren't discernable which would give it away...there were a few civvie versions in the PC (pre-Clinton) era that made it in.
This is a weapon of the enemy - I don't know if the difference will be noticible from these photos...I'll let it stew just a tad longer. 
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03-30-2006, 18:20
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Scope appears slightly different (newer model ?) than the standard SVD scope, has a wider objective lens. Bipod and furniture would suggest a modern SVD variant. I compared the gas block in those photos to the gas blocks on the Zastava M76 and the SVD, it looks like the SVD gas block.
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03-30-2006, 18:29
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Hmm, pictures are too dark to make out much detail, more like a silhouette.
Buttstock is wrong for an Iraqi Al Kadesiah or the Chinese Type 79/85, wish you had shown a mag in the pics.
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03-30-2006, 18:42
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OK - The comment about the gas system would lead me to suspect a Yugoslav M-76. Externally identical, uses a long stroke system similar to the AK, vs. the short stroke of the Dragunov. My .02 - Peregrino
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03-30-2006, 21:57
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OK, so I don't lead folks astray - and turn good ol gun porn into a mystery game, especially considering the pic quality.
>TR mentions the Type 79, but notes a difference in the buttstock. Actually it is a Type 79...hence the wood furniture below the wpn.
>Bob1984 notes the difference in the scope from the standard SVD which did have a smaller Obj lense.
>TR also says a pic of the mag would've helped, actually it would've probably confirmed it for him, too easy - I didn't include it 
>Peregrino; My ref to the gas system was just to keep off the AK family track...as some folks don't recognize what to us is a glaring difference.
Not many folks get to see Type 79s, granted it is an SVD at the end of the day - just a different manufacturer.
Funny this reminds me teaching observation/reporting to S/Os years ago; you'd get the report "...carrying AK-47s..." and I'd ask how they determined this - usually it was the easy assumption based on wpn profile they'd seen. So I'd ask if they were sure it was 47 or 74? AK or akm? Driving home the point that this could determine important intel and presence of different forces supplying arms etc. (as we found when external elements were involved with the FMLN/FSLN in the '80's - the small amount of 74s that showed up in LATAM weren't noted for awhile)
At any rate, they quickly learned the value of "ATB" (appears to be) when reporting items they couldn't positively confirm.
Until I went through the process of LEGALLY registering this little trophy - it was completely sterile. So now there's some required engraving on the reciever/bolt - but it's still cool - let's hope all the DPRK troops have as bad fieldcaft as the former owner if we ever go full-on against that problem set - since they have quite a few (thousand) DMs armed with them...
have a good one,
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03-30-2006, 22:10
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What type of pistol would you like to see? Shotguns? Drillings? deactivated nasties?
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Drillings? Ha! OK -- show me some British double rifles.
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03-30-2006, 22:49
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1-0:
Good one!
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03-30-2006, 23:17
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Here is my Bushmaster M4 copy:
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03-30-2006, 23:56
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Drillings? Ha! OK -- show me some British double rifles.
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Gene I have two s/s one is a Dilling, 16 g euro, with a 6.5 sauer under barrel, that other is a appox 1900 Parker DH in 16 g
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03-31-2006, 16:30
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Just received my wife's HK USP Compact 9mm today. I just noticed that the title is now "Gun Pics" not porn, so my inclusion of gun lube will not be funny at all..
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03-31-2006, 17:11
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Just received my wife's HK USP Compact 9mm today. I just noticed that the title is now "Gun Pics" not porn, so my inclusion of gun lube will not be funny at all..
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Yes it will!
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03-31-2006, 17:14
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Anybody got snow guns?
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03-31-2006, 20:30
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I SHOW everyone my guns....I have small ones and big ones....I promise pics tomorrow..........
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03-31-2006, 20:58
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