02-15-2004, 12:34
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lrd,
The fine people of Mississippi's agrarian society are yet another victim group of the decay of family values, divorce, and unwed mothers. Its not their fault.
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Are you trying to pick a fight? LOL
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02-15-2004, 12:42
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No, I mean it. If those Yankee girls would stay home and iron, their men could still wear cotton clothes. But they either want or have to work. All those synthetic fabrics were invented because women don't want to iron any more. destroyed the cotton market. LOL
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02-15-2004, 12:54
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guinness - be careful about agreeing with me, you don't know why I'm taking this stance.
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If you are heading to tax reform or flat tax ... you have my vote.
You were being facetious on the third one.....right?
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02-15-2004, 16:50
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If you are heading to tax reform or flat tax ... you have my vote.
You were being facetious on the third one.....right?
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About the electoral college? Not at all.
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02-15-2004, 17:37
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About the electoral college? Not at all.
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You want to abolish the electoral college? Why?
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02-15-2004, 17:55
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No, I asked GH if he did.
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02-15-2004, 18:48
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While you are right about this GH, you are basing the incentive for companies to do the right thing on the most easily manipulated piece of the pie. Your concept of market driven control assumes educated and conscientous consumers as the driving force, which we have already shown is not the case with the televisions.
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I don't think so. Even in uneducated areas, consumers understand image and want to buy quality. Mercedes is still the preferred choice of vehicle among the rural population of Thailand even though they cannot afford it. Image is an interesting thing, because it must be formed by targetting educated consumers, but will affect all consumers. Efforts to create image based on the general population don't generally work.
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Do you think we should abolish the electoral college and have direct elections for President?
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Nope. And that has nothing to do with the general population. The Representatives in the House represent the people. The President is the Executive, he must represent the country (which is more than just the people).
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02-15-2004, 18:50
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Caveat - I am not saying RL and CRad are not good consumers because they own Japanese television. I also own Japanese televisions.
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Everybody owns Japanese televisions. Even if you own Philips or RCA, they are made in Asia by a Japanese sub-contractor.
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02-15-2004, 19:45
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Jawbreaker - the first duty of government is to protect the citizens of the republic.
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We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
What do you think the constitution intends for the government to protect us from? Who decides where to draw the line?
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02-15-2004, 19:51
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We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
What do you think the constitution intends for the government to protect us from? Who decides where to draw the line?
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That's easy. The Constitution is intended to protect us from the government.
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02-15-2004, 20:00
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BINGO!! We have a winner.
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02-15-2004, 20:40
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WTH is your point? Of course it is, I never said it wasn't. What about ensuring domestic tranquility and promote the general welfare? Doesn't your general welfare depend on having a job? (Not welfare in the lib sense). WTH did this tangent come from?
You don't think provide for the common defense includes defense unagainst unfair trade in today's world? Hell, the most famous incident of the revolution had nothing to do with human rights, it was about commerce. Money.
GH - is MB is the preferred car because it is a quality car or because it is a status symbol? If all the rich dudes started driving VW bugs, would the same thing happen? You're proving my point. The consumer is too easily swayed by crap and the business world knows it, they've been taking advantage of it for years. Remember light cigarettes? What a joke. Light beer? Another joke.
The country is more than the people? I don't begin to understand that one.
I'll agree with you all after you fix the education system and show me informed consumers that can do battle with the tactics of the business world. Show me 10 high schoolers, that over the next five years will become consumers and trying to get into the job market, that can even follow this thread and I'll concede the point (they can't be your kids).
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02-15-2004, 20:45
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WTH is your point?
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Aren't we touchy today. More poodle trouble?
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Remember light cigarettes? What a joke. Light beer? Another joke.
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I don't follow. Are you telling me that low tar cigarettes aren't less harmful? That light beer doesn't have fewer calories? The latter in particular will piss me off, as I just made the painful switch.
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02-15-2004, 20:49
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That's easy. The Constitution is intended to protect us from the government.
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ain't the answer to this
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What do you think the constitution intends for the government to protect us from? Who decides where to draw the line?
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The question wasn't "What does the Constitution protect us from?"
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02-15-2004, 20:56
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WTH is your point? Of course it is, I never said it wasn't. What about ensuring domestic tranquility and promote the general welfare? Doesn't your general welfare depend on having a job? (Not welfare in the lib sense). WTH did this tangent come from?
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Glad to see you took my recipe for cheerios and tried it….
Every time I read RL's title I laugh and think of Billy crystal in the Analyze This role of Paul Vede's shrink/consigliore.
Therefore, keeping with the character:
"What do you think my point was? What do you think about ensuring domestic tranquility and welfare? Do you think general welfare depends on a job? Where do you think it came from? Have we figured out this thing yet? Or are we still talkin’ bout the udder thing?" 
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