04-09-2013, 10:58
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The only place that "women" in combat has been successfully integrated is hollywood and video games. Seems all the "new" movies and video games have women playing the part of battle hardened killers.
I've got an idea, let's take a company of women infantry and make them face a company of male infantry, hand to hand no weapons. Yeah, that's how we fight sometimes, hand to hand. Some would call that unfair, I'd just call it "war".
That should settle the issue.
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04-09-2013, 13:32
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TS, lets start with a 15 mile ruck march with 100 pound rucks first though.
Then they have to load the rucks into the back of a truck before the fight.
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04-09-2013, 14:54
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The only place that "women" in combat has been successfully integrated is hollywood and video games. Seems all the "new" movies and video games have women playing the part of battle hardened killers.
I've got an idea, let's take a company of women infantry and make them face a company of male infantry, hand to hand no weapons. Yeah, that's how we fight sometimes, hand to hand. Some would call that unfair, I'd just call it "war".
That should settle the issue.
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04-09-2013, 14:57
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TS, lets start with a 15 mile ruck march with 100 pound rucks first though. 
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Including the purse?
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04-09-2013, 17:49
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I've taken a fashion to Tom Kratman's fiction. I'm reading The Amazon Legion which is part of a series. This book could stand alone and is about raising, training, deploying up to a battalion of female troops in an alternate Earth SciFi genre. Kratman, a retired Mech LTC and now lawyer, uses this alternative Earth setting to illustrate his points and opinions on the conduct of war, GWOT, Islamism, and integration of women and GBLT into the armed services.
I dare say his books will strike a similar cord with this August body.
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04-09-2013, 17:58
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an alternate Earth SciFi genre.
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The only place where they can really compete.
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04-10-2013, 08:56
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Someone is MAYBE waking up, replace the xx with tt, did not want to hyperlink.
hxxp://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/04/10/heavy-loads-could-burden-womens-infantry-role.html?ESRC=eb.nl
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04-10-2013, 10:13
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WOW...Didn't see that coming...
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04-10-2013, 10:34
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Lighten up, Bro. Dusty doesn't mean it personal; Liberace played piano.
The only music Dusty admires is Banjos.
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Wrong. On my first album (LP), I played everything but the drums (piano included). Texas Blues, not hillbilly.
I don't have anything against piano players, or I would have wiseassed that photo of your son.
I don't like Liberace because homosexuals, to me, are disgusting.
Your mileage may vary...
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04-10-2013, 11:33
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Wrong. On my first album (LP), I played everything but the drums (piano included). Texas Blues, not hillbilly.
I don't have anything against piano players, or I would have wiseassed that photo of your son.
I don't like Liberace because homosexuals, to me, are disgusting.
Your mileage may vary... 
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Liberace was a homosexual?!?! No way! Next thing you know, you'll be trying to tell me Rock Hudson was a homosexual.
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04-24-2013, 10:54
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Looks like the Army is slowing down a bit on this idea.
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...3317843&rank=9
Wonder if they are watching the struggles the Marines are having?
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04-24-2013, 18:48
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Good.
Let's go to gender neutral selective service registration and APFT scoring.
Then maybe we can talk Combat Arms.
And if you can't break track or help pull a power pack, I don't need you on my crew, Ma'am.
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04-29-2013, 19:18
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I have no idea how all of this will play out. I hope it is more than simply an interesting social and political experiment. I lack the passion to latch onto this cause. Could be I'm old or adverse to anything involving absolutes. I get more worked up about the state of mil healthcare and PETA threatening our goat labs. But that's just me. I do, however, get upset when an entire group is lumped together as an easier way to deginerate them. Kind of like if I judged all of SF by those asshats who were rude to me at the shoppette today. There are good and bad in all groups.
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You may want to reread the rules, and consider starting a new thread in another forum (like General Discussions) to discuss this specific issue.
http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/...ad.php?t=22758
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05-06-2013, 21:00
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You are welcome to your opinions. Many people in this forum share their own on this site. However, those people follow the rules of posting.
Thanks for visiting.
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05-06-2013, 21:13
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Ah, got it. This is like visiting the great and powerful Oz. I may ask a question, but may not render any opinion or fact or any experience or lessons learned from my inconsequential service. I forgot the rules or simply didn't understand them. If this is more than a glory hole for SFs of old, why not close it to the undeserving wretches such as me? What the hell do I know? I'm allowed to work alongside you, no, never in the actual shit unless something goes horribly wrong, but always be second class? The Army is not a monarchy or a theocracy. POGs get paid the same as everyone else. You can ban me, if you like. Then you will have deliberately chosen to take offense at my words. But I wonder why?
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So much for the nice approach....
First, I don't need to explain myself to you, but since I am feeling generous, the purpose of this specific forum is for non-SF people to ask questions, and for SF qualified personnel to answer them. That means you are entitled to ask questions in this forum, but not to answer them. Grab a big cup of STFU, and read, unless you have somehow acquired a long tab over your many years of service.
That was clearly spelled out in the rules I directed you to, but you either decided you are special, or you have chosen to disregard them.
If you want to change topics, simply start another thread in an appropriate forum. On this specific forum, you are either asking a question, or reading. No need for you to insert your opinion here. This policy applies to everyone, and we have set that precedent adequately here before without consideration of MOS or gender.
You don't know me, and have never worked beside me. If you want to be SF, drop a packet with a request for an exception to policy. But first, follow the same rules and meet the same standards the males in the Army have to.
You also seem to have forgotten a non-disclosure agreement that you should have signed or be aware of before mentioning that facility. Don't do it again.
Finally, this board is not for everyone. Your tendency to ignore rules and your thin skin are likely going to make for a short stay here. Plenty of other non-SF people frequent here, follow the rules, and express their opinions (including opposing ones) thousands of times without ever having to be told what to do. If our rules and manners are not to your liking, or you don't like the way your are treated, refer to the basic board rules. Summary: This is an SF website, you are a visitor, and if you are not happy with your interactions here, stop sniveling, move out, and draw fire.
Now have a very SF day.
TR
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