02-28-2004, 17:34
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Thanks for saying that. It's sometimes hard to know how to match up our attachment points or what type of fastener/belt loop size to use to cover all uses. maybe we should just supply a roll of cammo duct tape. Bill
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02-28-2004, 17:50
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Mr. Harsey,
If I may suggest. I obviously can't speak for everyone on here. I think you guys should just stick to a loop that will accomodate a 2.5 inch belt. With 2 eye holes on the bottom so you can thread 550 cord through.
The way I look at is that G.I.'s have been Gerry-rigging there knives sheaths to whatever there needs are that they have probably mastered the art of how to attach there knife sheath in any way they see fit while utilizing a standard belt slot.
Plus some people like keeping there knife on there belts so no matter what if they have to ditch there 2nd or 3rd line gear they don't have to worry about ditching there knife.
Just my .02 cents.
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02-28-2004, 19:19
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Thanks for the info
Mr. Harsey/ TR...
Thank you both for the info, I'll shoot them a message and see what they come back with.
On leather sheaths...
The other "inconvenience" that I experienced was that couldn't jump the silly thing on my LCE.
Perhaps it has changed, but previously we were not allowed to jump any fixed blade that was not in "kydex" or some other synthetic sheath.
Any current JM's want to chime in on it???
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02-28-2004, 19:36
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Quote:
Originally posted by Bill Harsey
Thanks for saying that. It's sometimes hard to know how to match up our attachment points or what type of fastener/belt loop size to use to cover all uses. maybe we should just supply a roll of cammo duct tape. Bill
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Most pants belts are 1.5", with a few at 1.75". Rigger belts and gunbelts are up to 2" wide. The issue web pistol belt is 2.25".
You span 1.5"-2.5", you should have it all covered.
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02-28-2004, 20:01
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For hunters I make a leather belt loop at 2 inches unless the customer wants it tightened up to fit a 1 3/4 inch belt, this way when they draw the hunting blade the sheath doesn't come up with the knife. I make a form fitted locking welt sheath for the hunters. Will do as advised for military rigging sizes. Anyone seen the old OSS designs for hideouts? They carried in some very interesting places. I don't think we can adapt the Yarborough for that type of carry.
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02-28-2004, 20:19
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yes, sir, I've seen photos of the OSS carries. Very interesting indeed. Agree the Y wouldn't go well in some of those places. OSS Det 101 would have probably felt right at home with the Y though.
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02-28-2004, 21:39
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OSS knife?
Are you talking about the Triangular shaped blade (has 3 cutting surfaces w/ 3 blood grooves) no hand guard, about 10- 12 inches long?
Could be attached to just about any appendage. Provide it was big enough to support the weight. 
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02-28-2004, 21:44
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That was one of them. They also invented some cool ways to carry the FS stiletto.
bragging? 
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02-28-2004, 22:02
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I have some pis of the OSS thumb daggers and lapel knives. Have you guys seen them?
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02-28-2004, 22:11
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Quote:
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I have some pis of the OSS thumb daggers and lapel knives. Have you guys seen them?
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We are interested in seeing ANY pics you have.
Are these from the Colonel?
If you prefer, send them to me and I will resize and post whatever you wish to share.
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02-28-2004, 22:31
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Nope, don't need to
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02-28-2004, 22:37
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I'll use snow shovel in the morning to locate the file with OSS pics. I think I saw them recently. Bill
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03-01-2004, 14:35
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The lapel/thumb daggers were a nifty little last ditch tool. Every so often I see repros of them on eBay (by I believe Ek). The sheath was handy in that it was pre-punched to sew it in an out of the way location in your clothing. Nowadays, something similar but made of either ceramic to defeat a metal detector, and with a slimmer sheath material than leather may have a place.
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03-02-2004, 21:34
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I located some of the old photo's of the originals. I should think hard about making some. (Damn it I already DID! Just remembered the little frame handled prototypes I did for Gerber years ago, nothing happened!, I KNOW the master patterns are in the shop...duuuuuuuh) Good thinking Razor about a new sheath, thin Kydex would work and make it cut proof. You could stow it anywhere and be ok.
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03-02-2004, 22:02
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Quote:
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I located some of the old photo's of the originals. I should think hard about making some. (Damn it I already DID! Just remembered the little frame handled prototypes I did for Gerber years ago, nothing happened!, I KNOW the master patterns are in the shop...duuuuuuuh) Good thinking Razor about a new sheath, thin Kydex would work and make it cut proof. You could stow it anywhere and be ok.
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He knows only The Cause.
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