Vertical Grips

[Ramirez]

Well, after reading these reviews I'm going to give my magpul some real work.
Maybe it's just something I'm going to have to get used to.

[Pete S]

Originally Posted by Hardluck77

..... or at least give the DVDs a try. They do a pretty good job of teaching competition shooting techniques with combat marksmanship and tactical awareness in mind. Just my 2 cents.

Not to derail to much, I do like the Magpul DVD series but those videos present techniques..... not teach them.
I use them as reference guides.

I have run multiple style VFG's and have tried the new AFG.
I like it.
What I would like is an AFG with a high output weapon light on the front and tape switches on the sides. Maybe two small LED's also.
Consolidate it all in one package.
The next evolution of the M900 series.

For now I roll with an AFG and a Surefire G2 LED on the left side of the barrel, in line with the rail, as far forward as possible.
I shift my hand slightly forward and am able to hit the button without to much inconsistency in my non firing hand position.

Grip pods, I hate them.
A Harris bipod with a stubby VFG are insanely better.
Not as awkward and much more reliable.

[Ramirez]

Originally Posted by Pete S

Not to derail to much, I do like the Magpul DVD series but those videos present techniques..... not teach them.
I use them as reference guides.

I have run multiple style VFG's and have tried the new AFG.
I like it.
What I would like is an AFG with a high output weapon light on the front and tape switches on the sides. Maybe two small LED's also.
Consolidate it all in one package.
The next evolution of the M900 series.

For now I roll with an AFG and a Surefire G2 LED on the left side of the barrel, in line with the rail, as far forward as possible.
I shift my hand slightly forward and am able to hit the button without to much inconsistency in my non firing hand position.

Grip pods, I hate them.
A Harris bipod with a stubby VFG are insanely better.
Not as awkward and much more reliable.

That's my issue. I had a surefire in front of my VFG. I could just tap it with my knuckle and then had no issue. Even if I put it on the left side I could reach up and touch it while it gripping the VFG.

With the AFG my hands grip around the left side of the barrel, so I don't have any place other than the right side to put the light. I see some people running it on top, but I don't have a riser for my EOTech and also have a front sight post/gasblock.

[Hardluck77]

Originally Posted by Ramirez

...and also have a front sight post/gasblock.

Yeah I run a 10.3" shorty so there is nothing on top but railspace. With a 16" standard M4 you have less rail length & a front sight post which limits your options.