New Q Course POI

[lksteve]

Originally Posted by Dustin03

one of the guys from my unit just got back from SFAS and said like 50% of his class was selected. do you gents think this had anything to do with SF needing more bodies, and going along with SFQC being shortened?

perhaps...perhaps the word got out on what it takes to make it through and folks are showing up better prepared...

[Razor]

IIRC, much more than 50% of my SFAS class (that made it to the end) was selected. Guess I got over and slipped through the cracks.

[Dustin03]

i think that's what it is, people are better prepared. The 2 guys we sent both wher selected, and i didnt see that either of them would have a problem. Both are squared away. This month we are sending 5 from our NQP detachment, they all have the heart, but im worried about maybe one or 2 of em physically.

I still cant get the words outta my head of our SGM at drill last weekend when i came across the finish line on a run....."damnit, you're getting there, you are almost there ********" in reference to being ready to ship out. That gets at me most, just being "almost' there. (reason behind him yelling this was i came in at 14:39 on the 2 mile, they wont send us till we are hitting 14:23 and 80% on P.U. and S.U.'s. Also gotta be good to go on nav, but according to the guys that got back, if you can nav where we drill, you can easily nav at Bragg.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by Razor

IIRC, much more than 50% of my SFAS class (that made it to the end) was selected. Guess I got over and slipped through the cracks.

Word I got was the Selection Committee bought a bunch of new toys for themselves after your class.

Doc

[Jack Moroney (RIP)]

I have seen selection rates as low as 27% and as high as 62%. I went thru months of dealing with general officers trying to use regression analysis to determine how to predict the outcome of the process and there just is not way of knowing. In a lot of cases it comes down to something as simple as "shit happens" or compounding variables like weather. But for the most part it is all about the individual in the program being able to reach down deep and pull it out of his guts that will determine who makes it and who does not.

Jack Moroney

[Archangel]

Originally Posted by Dustin03

This month we are sending 5 from our NQP detachment, they all have the heart, but im worried about maybe one or 2 of em physically.

I'll make sure I tell them you said that.

I got a bottle of Glucosamine and Chondroitin for my stupid knees. Hopefully it will work & my damn knees would hurt so much.

[Dustin03]

Originally Posted by Archangel

I'll make sure I tell them you said that.

I got a bottle of Glucosamine and Chondroitin for my stupid knees. Hopefully it will work & my damn knees would hurt so much.

well, one of em was one of the "sick" ones this past weekend, he's a big guy, tuff but i dunno bout his running. the other i think has had problems with his knee, just hope for the best for all of them, a bunch of great guys.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by Doc

Word I got was the Selection Committee bought a bunch of new toys for themselves after your class.

Doc

I see it as money well spent.

[The Reaper]

Originally Posted by Dustin03

one of the guys from my unit just got back from SFAS and said like 50% of his class was selected. do you gents think this had anything to do with SF needing more bodies, and going along with SFQC being shortened?

No.

TR

[Surgicalcric]

Originally Posted by Dustin03

one of the guys from my unit just got back from SFAS and said like 50% of his class was selected...

102 out of 108 SOPC students were selected that class. Class started with a total of 385. This means there was only 25% (roughly) selected from outside SOPC. That number does not say much for how well prepared the AD/NG soldiers not attending SOPC were.

SOPC is doing its job for those able to make it to the end without injury. (cough-cough)

Now...back to PT for me...


Crip

Originally Posted by The Reaper

I would rather take an ODA to Robin Sage that had been working together, even intermittently for several months rather than one tossed together for isolation.

I like the overall concept. The devil is in the details.

TR

It's too early in the game to see how possible weak link issues will play out... But in all I am liking the idea put forth by the CSM. We have had last week and this week to work out fine details on how we will organize our equipment and put together items such as status cards, range cards, etc. We also have a chance to know one another's personallity type before the fact of being put into a more stressful enviroment, which I personally think is important to a cohesive team. Not to mention getting to draw alittlebit from each others experience, which I really need comming from a non 11B background. Were also better able to police up the guys that never did pt in the morning and struggled with pt in bncoc. Which is good because more people will be ready, but obviously bad because they should have been selfmodivated in the first place.

I can't help but feel abit uneasy about going into a new team for phase 4 after my 18D school, it's some thing I will deal with when the time comes, but the biggest issue in my head is trying to get into SERE this year while it's still warm out. Well here is my spot of course recon... Is it a creditable claim that phase 2 is getting shortened to nearly 20 days?? We know It would not apply to us and it's probably just rumors that just so happened to take off because of the comming course changes.

Kevin

[Dustin03]

Hey, I went to the Air Force SERE school in the winter time, and that was in the mountains of Washington state. It's not so bad when it's cold, just pay attention and u will be okay. We where also moving a lot during the non-evasive part, you will be surprised at how light some of us bundled up.

[Kyobanim]

Originally Posted by Dustin03

hey, i went to the Air Force SERE school in the winter time, and that was in the mtns of Washington state. It's not so bad when it's cold, just pay attention and u will be a-ok. We where also moving a lot during the non-evasive part, u'd be surprised at how light some of us bundled up.

How about some capital letters, spelled out words, etc.

Poor SA here, Dustin. Attention to detail is a cornerstone.

[dennisw]

I believe the SOPC program probably skews the results of SFAS. In SOPC I many of the candidates quit or are dropped. By the time they get to SFAS, the group is pretty tough.

I would be interested in the combined selection rate. It's probably similar to the rates of prior years.

[rwt_bkk]

Back to the language question.... after getting out (a long time after getting out) I attended the Summer Institute of Liquistics courses for a couple of semesters. What an eye opener this was! Dr. Pike ( the founder of a linguistic system called Tagmemics) does a one hour demo where he uses a student from somewhere in the world. The student speaks his native language (which Dr. Pike doesn't know) and Dr. Pike speaks a Indian language from Mexico (which they don't know). In an hour he has the basic grammar of the language. About 100 or so words and knows what area of the world and probably what language family it belongs to.

He learned more in an hour than I did in a year with the Bru. It was impressive.

All that to say this. There is a book call The LAMP Method by Brewster and Brewster. It is a method for learning a foreign language on your own in an immersion fashion yet still picking up the grammar etc. It is a very good book to put in your ruck. I wish that SF Command would pick it up for distribution. It would really help a lot.

So for all of you - just starting through or AD now. I would recommend it - you will learn a lot about learning languages from this little book.