Everyone Agrees: USC Trojans Will Dominate Again - Page 4

QRQ 30 · 11-09-2004, 22:55

You are so correct TR. USC and Clemson have identical records so far this year. Clemson needs one more win for a bowl bid and it is a pretty well sure thing since they play Duke this week. I am sure that Duke has won a game or two over the years but have been insignificant since Spurier moved on. The USC V Clemson game should be a good one this year.

Achilles · 11-10-2004, 09:35

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

"If"

Poop on Stoops!!

AngryPistols · 11-10-2004, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Achilles

Poop on Stoops!!

FIGHT!!!!

AngryPistols · 11-10-2004, 11:23

Texas!!!!

Sigi · 11-14-2004, 05:13

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Originally Posted by Roguish Lawyer

Hmmm, seems like a good time to update this thread. Trojans are 9-0, still #1.

Sigi, are we betting or not?

I missed this. Heck yeah we're still on, although my Irish lost another game in the waning moments. Back to back heartbreaking losses.

Sigi · 11-20-2004, 09:39

Just thought I'd throw this out there.

http://und.collegesports.com/sports/...111704aaa.html

NOTRE DAME, Ind. - A recent survey by The Harris Poll® of a nationwide cross section of adults has confirmed what one survey earlier this year by ESPN -- The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame are the most popular college football team in the nation among adults in the United States.

The 2004 survey, released Nov. 12, continues a long-standing trend. Notre has been America's favorite college football team every year since The Harris Poll® first started asking this question in 1997 (with the exception of 2000 and 2001 as Harris Interactive® did not poll on this topic during these years). They are followed by Ohio State, which for the first time unseats Florida State for the number two spot, while Florida State, which has been second for the past seven years, drops precipitously out of the top 10.

My Irish and Buckeyes 1 and 2.

First the Buckeyes take care of Michigan, and then the Irish upset the Trojans next week.

**The Reaper** · 11-20-2004, 09:45

That would be the same Harris that predicted a Kerry victory?

TR

Sigi · 11-20-2004, 10:19

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Originally Posted by The Reaper

That would be the same Harris that predicted a Kerry victory?

TR

Yes Sir, but it has also been verified by a similar ESPN poll.

2004 Rank
1. Notre Dame
2. Ohio State
3. Michigan
4. Texas
5. Penn State
6. LSU
7. USC
8. Wisconsin
9. Tennessee
10. Maryland

No Florida teams in the top ten. South Bend on top again!

Goggles Pizano · 11-20-2004, 11:28

NOTRE DAME, Ind. - A recent survey by The Harris Poll® of a nationwide cross section of adults has confirmed what one survey earlier this year by ESPN -- The Fighting Irish of Notre Dame are the most popular college football team in the nation among adults in the United States.

I don't buy that poll for a second. The Nittany Lions, while having very little to cheer about the last four years

, are more popular nationally than three of those four teams who tend to be regional (Texas, Michigan, OSU). I'll give you the Irish's popularity though Sigi there is no way to top them nationwide. GH is also correct the Big Ten is the toughest conference (followed closely by the SEC).

"Joe must go" on his own terms-the school and the community owe him that.

preparing for incoming....

**Roguish Lawyer** · 11-20-2004, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Sigi

I missed this. Heck yeah we're still on, although my Irish lost another game in the waning moments. Back to back heartbreaking losses.

On for what? The avatar thing?

11-20-2004, 20:32

Just because Notre Dame is popular doesn't make them good.

And it seems their record backs that up: 6-4

Bowling Green State University at 8-2 has a better record. Navy has a better record. Louisville, Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, West Virginia, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Florida State, Miami (Fl), Virginia, Miami (Oh), Northern Illinois, Toledo, Utah, USC, California, Arizona State, Tennessee, Georgia, Auburn, LSU, North Texas, Boise State and UTEP all have better records.

Notre Dame (25 appearances - 13 wins, 1 - 6 in the last ten years)
BOWL YEAR OPPONENT RESULT
Gator 2003 NC State L 28 - 6
Fiesta 2001 Oregon State L 41-9
Gator 1999 Georgia Tech L 35-28
Independence 1997 LSU L 27-9
Orange 1996 Florida State L 31-26
Fiesta 1995 Colorado L 41-24
Cotton 1994 Texas A&M W 24-21
Cotton 1993 Texas A&M W 28-3
Sugar 1992 Florida W 39-28
Orange 1991 Colorado L 10-9
Orange 1990 Colorado W 21-6
Fiesta 1989 West Virginia W 34-21
Cotton 1988 Texas A&M L 35-10
Aloha 1984 SMU L 27-20
Liberty 1983 Boston College W 19-18
Sugar 1981 Georgia L 17-10
Cotton 1979 Houston W 35-34
Cotton 1978 Texas W 38-10
Gator 1976 Penn State W 20-9
Orange 1975 Alabama W 13-11
Sugar 1973 Alabama W 24-23
Orange 1973 Nebraska L 40-6
Cotton 1971 Texas W 24-11
Cotton 1970 Texas L 21-17
Rose 1925 Stanford W 27-10

Compared to Michigan (35 appearances - 18 wins, 6 - 4 in last ten years)
Bowl Season Opponent Result
Rose 2003 USC L 28-14
Outback 2002 Florida W 38 - 30
Citrus 2001 Tennessee L 45 - 17
Citrus 2000 Auburn W 31 - 28
Orange 1999 Alabama W 35 - 34 (OT)
Citrus 1998 Arkansas W 45 - 31
Rose 1997 Washington W 21 - 16
Outback 1996 Alabama L 17 - 14
Alamo 1995 Texas A&M L 22 - 20
Holiday 1994 Colorado State W 24 - 14
Hall of Fame 1993 North Carolina State W 42 - 7
Rose 1992 Washington W 38 - 31
Rose 1991 Washington L 34 - 14
Gator 1990 Mississippi W 35 - 3
Rose 1989 Southern Cal L 17 - 10
Rose 1988 Southern Cal W 22 - 14
Hall of Fame 1987 Alabama W 28 - 24
Rose 1986 Arizona State L 22 - 15
Fiesta 1985 Nebraska W 27 - 23
Holiday 1984 Brigham Young L 24 - 17
Sugar 1983 Auburn L 9 - 7
Rose 1982 UCLA L 24 - 14
Bluebonnet 1981 UCLA W 33 - 14
Rose 1980 Washington W 23 - 6
Gator 1979 North Carolina L 17 - 15
Rose 1978 Southern Cal L 17 - 10
Rose 1977 Washington L 27 - 20
Rose 1976 Southern Cal L 14- 6
Orange 1975 Oklahoma L 14 - 6
Rose 1971 Stanford L 13 - 12
Rose1969 Southern Cal L 10 - 3
Rose 1964 Oregon State W 34 - 7
Rose 1950 California W 14 - 6
Rose 1947 Southern Cal W 49 - 0
Rose 1901 Stanford W 49 - 0

And this year, Michigan is going to the Rose bowl. Where is Notre Dame going?

(corrected with addition that TR pointed out)

**The Reaper** · 11-20-2004, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Greenhat

Just because Notre Dame is popular doesn't make them good.

And this year, Michigan is going to the Rose bowl. Where is Notre Dame going?

You left out their 2002 collapse in the Gator Bowl against mighty NC State. No. 17 North Carolina State dug deep into its playbook of tricks to pull off a 28-6 shocker over 12th-ranked Notre Dame.

Make that 1-6 in bowls for the past 10 years.

Sorry, Sigi!

TR

Goggles Pizano · 11-20-2004, 21:36

Compared to PSU:

(37 appearances 25-12-2)

Rose Jan. 1, 1923 Southern Cal 14, Penn State 3
Cotton Jan. 1, 1948 Penn State 13, Southern Methodist 13
Liberty Dec. 19, 1959 Penn State 7, Alabama 0
Liberty Dec. 17, 1960 Penn State 41, Oregon 12
Gator Dec. 30, 1961 Penn State 30, Georgia Tech 15
Gator Dec. 29, 1962 Florida 17, Penn State 7
Gator Dec. 30, 1967 Penn State 17, Florida State 17
Orange Jan. 1, 1969 Penn State 15, Kansas 14
Orange Jan. 1, 1970 Penn State 10, Missouri 3
Cotton Jan. 1, 1972 Penn State 30, Texas 6
Sugar Dec. 31, 1972 Oklahoma 14, Penn State 0
Orange Jan. 1, 1974 Penn State 16, Louisiana State 9
Cotton Jan. 1, 1975 Penn State 41, Baylor 20
Sugar Dec. 31, 1975 Alabama 13, Penn State 6
Gator Dec. 27, 1976 Notre Dame 20, Penn State 9
Fiesta Dec. 25, 1977 Penn State 42, Arizona State 30
Sugar Jan. 1, 1979 Alabama 14, Penn State 7
Liberty Dec. 22, 1979 Penn State 9, Tulane 6
Fiesta Dec. 26, 1980 Penn State 31, Ohio State
Fiesta Jan. 1, 1982 Penn State 26, Southern Cal 10
Sugar Jan. 1, 1983 Penn State 27, Georgia 23
Aloha Dec. 26, 1983 Penn State 13, Washington 10
Orange Jan. 1, 1986 Oklahoma 25, Penn State 10
Fiesta Jan. 2, 1987 Penn State 14, Miami (Fla.) 10
Citrus Jan. 1, 1988 Clemson 35, Penn State 10
Holiday Dec. 29, 1989 Penn State 50, Brigham Young 39
Blockbuster Dec. 28, 1990 Florida State 24, Penn State 17
Fiesta Jan. 1, 1992 Penn State 42, Tennessee 17
Blockbuster Jan. 1, 1993 Stanford 24, Penn State 3
Citrus Jan. 1, 1994 Penn State 31, Tennessee 13
Rose Jan. 2, 1995 Penn State 38, Oregon 20
Outback Jan. 1, 1996 Penn State 43, Auburn 14
Fiesta Jan. 1, 1997 Penn State 38, Texas 15
Citrus Jan. 1, 1998 Florida 21, Penn State 6 Team
Outback Jan. 1, 1999 Penn State 26, Kentucky 14
Alamo Dec. 28, 2000 Penn State 24, Texas A&M 0
Capitol One Jan. 1, 2002 Auburn 13, Penn State 9

Yeah I know we're going nowhere this year Sir, but I have to scratch out some sunlight in all this gloom!

11-20-2004, 22:11

Penn State is historically a great team, Googles. I was at the Fiesta Bowl in 1987 in which they beat Miami. Miami swaggered in. They slunk out.

Goggles Pizano · 11-20-2004, 22:17

Unfortunately Sir your boys seem to have our number. Wish I could have attended that one (miami 87). Enjoyed the yolk dripping from Testeverde's face after interception number 5!