07-22-2004, 19:06
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Hey now, I was typing my message when you posted yours with the photo. I'm not bad-mouthing anything. I asked about your preferences so I could learn from you, that's all. Perhaps I should not have attempted to answer the question you put to me.
I'm going to the kitchen forum where I belong. LOL
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Yeah, yeah, now go get some sleep and clear your head, before you step in any further and I charge you for all of my "lawyer trigger" repair bills.
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07-22-2004, 19:21
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Sorry if this is stupid, but can 1911's be modified to have rails for a taclight? I'll be quiet after this, you have the most experience with them that I know. I thought I'd seen one with rails, but I can't remember. Thank you for putting up with my 21 questions. 
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07-22-2004, 19:23
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24601... YES.
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I am impressed. Can you gold plate that thing?  
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07-22-2004, 20:24
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Sorry if this is stupid, but can 1911's be modified to have rails for a taclight? I'll be quiet after this, you have the most experience with them that I know. I thought I'd seen one with rails, but I can't remember. Thank you for putting up with my 21 questions.
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Funny you ask.
I have a Para at the shop right now having the Caspian Recon Rail put on it to mount my Surefire X200A tac light.
Some of the Springfields, a few of the custom Kimbers, Caspian, the SIG GSR, and I think STI make 1911s with light rails. I am sure that I left some off.
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07-22-2004, 20:27
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Originally posted by Sacamuelas
24601... YES.
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I am impressed. Can you gold plate that thing?
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No.
The 10mm upper on it is NP3ed, which is probably more expensive than gold plating. If you had one like it, you could probably put some Pearl grips on it for when you go into town, though, Pimp Daddy Saca.
Hey, do you do gold teeth or diamond inlays?
I think someone here likes the look.
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07-22-2004, 20:38
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Damn sure aint me...Sir!
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Hey, do you do gold teeth or diamond inlays?
I think someone here likes the look.
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I've seen people with that stuff in thier mouth and didn't have a "Pot to piss in or a window to throw it out"! 
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07-22-2004, 22:56
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Originally posted by Roguish Lawyer
Hey now, I was typing my message when you posted yours with the photo. I'm not bad-mouthing anything. I asked about your preferences so I could learn from you, that's all. Perhaps I should not have attempted to answer the question you put to me.
I'm going to the kitchen forum where I belong. LOL
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Wow, sounds like someone needs a nap.
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07-22-2004, 23:04
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Originally posted by Sacamuelas
24601... YES.
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I am impressed. Can you gold plate that thing?
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Saca's new home page.
http://www.mrbling.com/
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07-23-2004, 07:01
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I hear Dawson makes a good add on rail as well.
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07-23-2004, 07:36
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I hear Dawson makes a good add on rail as well.
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They do, but theirs seems to hang down further, and is $119 vs. $35 for the Caspian.
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07-23-2004, 08:10
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I have had excellent luck with Kimbers and ParaOrdnance, some success with Springfields, and little success with Colt's running right out of the box.
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I rest my case.
Out of the box side by side for 10,000 rounds I'd place my money on the HK. Every 1911 I've ever owned has had to go to the SHOP!
German made, but the best in the world IMO.
BTW, isn't the M2HB about to be replaced?
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07-23-2004, 08:35
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I rest my case.
Out of the box side by side for 10,000 rounds I'd place my money on the HK. Every 1911 I've ever owned has had to go to the SHOP!
German made, but the best in the world IMO.
BTW, isn't the M2HB about to be replaced?
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Mine didn't HAVE to go to the shop, they ran fine, but I wanted ambi safeties, night sights, a trigger job, checkering on the front strap, etc. I could have avoided that by buying a custom to start with, with all of the bells and whistles, but I could not afford it all in one check. I spread it out over several periods, and shot it in the the interim.
I suspect that for the price of an H&K Tactical, with a half dozen mags, I could have bought a 1911 tricked out from the start.
Note that I am not slamming the H&K, just saying that I am happy with my choice, as you are with yours. The 1911 remains a valid consideration for a defensive pistol, despite its age, and its detractors. Just because your 1911s left you dissatisfied does not mean that they are all defective or unsuitable for use in that role.
I suspect that John Moses Browning would have improved the 1911 and made a few more changes to his masterpiece had he lived another 70 years. I doubt that the end result would have been the H&K design.
I have seen nothing on the M-2 HB being replaced, other than a partial swap for Mk 19s to ensure a mix of both systems. Reports from the Box indicate that the M-2 is one of the most reliable weapons in theater, and most feared by the bad guys.
Just my .02, as stated, YMMV.
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07-23-2004, 09:39
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For those who are considering painting their own personally owned bullet launcher... there are more specialized products out there that 'should be' much more resistant to the gun solvents,etc that we use to clean them.
Note, I have never painted a firearm myself. I do not know -personally-if these products are more resistant first hand than simple krylon paint. My personal guess... Hell yes.
Maybe Mr. Harsey could help as he deals with metallic finishes all the time.
just an example.. CLICK ME FOR GUN FINISH PRODUCT
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07-23-2004, 10:52
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Good point Saca.
The main reason why I used Kyrlon is incase my administration saw it and had a shit fit. I could easily remove it.
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08-12-2004, 20:51
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HK just came out with some new colors for their pistols. OD and some other color I didn't recognize the name of.
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He knows only The Cause.
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