05-10-2013, 07:31
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Sorry but she can only have one if she joins a state recognized militia.
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05-10-2013, 15:55
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#467
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Area Commander
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Was there really any doubt as to their intent?
Open mike reveals N.J. senators’ contempt for gun owners, confiscation goal
GUN RIGHTS
MAY 10, 2013
BY: DAVID CODREA
Examiner.com
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A microphone left on after the gavel fell at a New Jersey Senate Budget and Appropriations Committee hearing Thursday shows the “true view” of some of the senators toward gun owners, and provides proof that gun confiscation is a goal on which they agree, the Association of New Jersey Rifle and Pistol Clubs revealed in an email to members and supporters today.
Among the lines heard in the recording:
"We needed a bill that was going to confiscate, confiscate, confiscate.”
"They don’t care about the bad guys. All they want to do is have their little guns and do whatever they want with them.”
ETA link to audio below:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature...layer_embedded
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http://www.examiner.com/article/open...alerts_article
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05-10-2013, 16:38
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#468
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These "anointed ones" hold the rest of us in contempt. They only hide it when trying to get elected but the mask slips when the cameras aren't around (or they think they aren't). The storm is coming.
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05-11-2013, 01:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sinjefe
These "anointed ones" hold the rest of us in contempt. They only hide it when trying to get elected but the mask slips when the cameras aren't around (or they think they aren't). The storm is coming.
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Yes. Yes it is.
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05-26-2013, 18:39
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#470
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KS Teacher Carrying faces prison/job loss
Sounds like Mr. Nagel (and some some supportive parents of students) are OK with a page from reality - except for that darn law.
(And he gets paid a hellluva lot less than Lois Lerner.)
Complete story here (2 pgs, read it all)
Includes a pretty damning assessment of a w i d e -open school from a security standpoint. Ok, you hand-wringing, ostrich-headed politicos, you want to dance on the blood of children; how many does it take until you understand that you can't wish away the monsters in the world?
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05-29-2013, 07:55
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that video is spot on....handguns are not great 'stoppers' and as we all know until the shot person bleeds enough to stop being a threat, multiple holes make them bleeed faster unless you get a great head shot.....unlikely under stress for the average armed civilian.
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05-29-2013, 09:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swatsurgeon
that video is spot on....handguns are not great 'stoppers' and as we all know until the shot person bleeds enough to stop being a threat, multiple holes make them bleeed faster unless you get a great head shot.....unlikely under stress for the average armed civilian.
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He needs to do another video for the "non-believers". I'd recommend he do a video of average police shootings from around the country where average "Joe/Josephine Cop" empties their high capacity magazine in almost "every" gunfight.
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05-29-2013, 10:42
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Originally Posted by Team Sergeant
He needs to do another video for the "non-believers". I'd recommend he do a video of average police shootings from around the country where average "Joe/Josephine Cop" empties their high capacity magazine in almost "every" gunfight. 
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Excellent point - you can contact him here: Link
Give him some background, mention The Letter, make your suggestion. Maybe offer to help with a video showing liberal fantasy (you shooting) and reality (cops shooting).
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05-29-2013, 11:09
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Originally Posted by MR2
Excellent point - you can contact him here: Link
Give him some background, mention The Letter, make your suggestion. Maybe offer to help with a video showing liberal fantasy (you shooting) and reality (cops shooting).
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Exactly! Of all the misunderstandings I have heard from non-military sources, this is probably the most frequently expressed. Non gun owners cannot fathom that every shot does not land where intended. I just ask them to spend a day at a range and observe. I have them watch these people who practice and are not under threat. That usually opens their eyes to a small dose of reality. I do not usually hear anything more about magazine size. Also, they encounter well mannered, polite people at the range - again, not what they are expecting.
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05-30-2013, 09:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sinjefe
These "anointed ones" hold the rest of us in contempt. They only hide it when trying to get elected but the mask slips when the cameras aren't around (or they think they aren't). The storm is coming.
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Agreed. Here is Maryland now you wait up to 90+ days after the purchase of
a pistol to get a "not denied" stamp. What last year was 7 days, as by Md law.
Gun owners mad as hell.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/201...nning-40-days/
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05-30-2013, 17:10
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Not here.
Show photo ID, your concealed weapons permit, fill out the 4473, and cash & carry anything you want out the door, except for Class III.
That is a Federal process and takes a month to six months, depending.
TR
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05-30-2013, 17:41
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Originally Posted by pcfixer
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Sounds like a wonderful place to live - Plus a Rain Tax...Spectacular!
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05-31-2013, 05:59
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Originally Posted by badshot
Sounds like a wonderful place to live - Plus a Rain Tax...Spectacular!
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"keep your friends close and your enemies closer"
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05-31-2013, 13:58
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Originally Posted by pcfixer
""keep your friends close and your enemies closer"
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Well put - you're definitely in the middle of it. Will give you this; it's a pretty place...couple of months ago was offered a very good position there and actually considered it.
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05-31-2013, 16:02
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YGBSM (I wish)
Sadly believable; source link
Quote:
Police confiscate gun from homeowner for firing shot at burglar
By Cheryl K. Chumley
The Washington Times
Thursday, May 30, 2013
A military veteran in Oregon had his rifle confiscated after police decided he had no good reason to fire a warning shot at a burglar who was breaking into his home.
The burglar turned out to be 40-year-old wanted felon Jonathon Kinsella, The Blaze reported. Police caught him fleeing the scene of a home he was trying to burglarize — after the homeowner gave a verbal warning and fired a single gun shot to scare him away.
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Nobody was injured or killed. But police responding to the burglary call said Corey Thompson, 36, should not have fired to scare off the felon, who was breaking into his home through the back door, The Blaze said.
Mr. Thompson, who’s a military veteran, said he warned the intruder: “This is the end result. You break into someone’s house, there’s consequences,” The Blaze reported. He then fired a shot from his AR-15, which did not hit anybody.
But police took his weapon, anyway. They charged Mr. Thompson with unlawful use of a weapon, and menacing and reckless endangering, and seized the weapon on the basis that it was used in the commission of a crime, The Blaze said.
“There was nothing that the suspect was doing that was aggressive enough to justify the shooting,” Medford Police Lt. Mike Budreau said, in The Blaze report.
Mr. Kinsella’s outstanding warrants were for burglary and assault, The Blaze said.
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I'll bet Lt. Budreau will look "totally fabulous" for his interview with the his next big metro assignment.
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