08-18-2004, 13:23
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Originally posted by larfive
Hey Sir,
I wonder if they have one for Glock 23 or 19. I would definately be interested.
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I do not think so, though there may be a source for a Glock add on rail, frankly, it is probably cheaper and easier to sell your Glock and buy a new one with the built in rail.
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08-18-2004, 13:59
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I THINK that I heard that Glock will update older pistols to the new style with rail for a fee. I would Contact Glock direct. They should have answers.
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08-18-2004, 16:42
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Glock will replace the lower receiver with a 3rd generation frame with the finger-grooves and accessory rail for a nominal fee. You have to contact Glock in Smyrna, GA and send in your pistol, and they will charge you about $150 or so to replace it.
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09-04-2004, 14:40
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I have a sig 220, but it doesn't have a rail system. My question is, are there any good lights, that don't use a rail or should I spend the money and get a rail mounted on it?
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09-04-2004, 14:53
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Some of the older Surefire systems didn't require a rail but I'm not 100% on whether they work on the Sig 226/220 weapons or if they're even still available.
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http://www.action-lights.com/product...673.asp?bhcp=1
It appears that they are still available.
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09-04-2004, 22:42
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They are still available. I don't know the model #'s but a quick call to surefire can fix that for you.
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12-21-2004, 19:30
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Originally Posted by Sacamuelas
So, where are we on the handgun lights?
I found this online with my googleFU. I know nothing about this company. Can this price be beat by anyone's contact on the group price?
$189.00 http://www.botac.com/surefirex200.html |
I had a very bad experience with that company. Ordered a gun safe from them based on assurance of prompt shipment, then they were out of stock and did not ship and I ultimately had to cancel the order. That did not stop them from putting me on a seriously annoying e-mail list that spammed the living daylights out of me for a while.
Perhaps this was an isolated event, but I do not plan to buy anything from them again.
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12-21-2004, 19:39
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Agreed, I would avoid Botach like the plague.
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12-21-2004, 23:27
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Agreed, I would avoid Botach like the plague.
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Ditto that. I had SEVERAL instances where they did not delivery as promised.
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12-22-2004, 09:42
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For those of you who are interested, there is an armorer here at the Dept. of Energy who makes rail mounts. I don't know what he wants for them, but if you're interested I can get his contact info for you.
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12-23-2004, 03:37
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Guys,
Check out www.safetysystemscorp.com. Our team has ordered from them in the past and have been pleased. They do not stock every item all of the time, so there may be a backorder, but it is usually a reasonable amount of time. I just spoke with a sales rep there within the last week or two and they had the Surefire X200's on sale for 185.00. Yeah, that's no typo...185.00.
You can request a quote online via their website, if interested...especially if it will be a large group order.
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12-23-2004, 09:00
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Safety Systems is good.
877 653-1103
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01-15-2005, 19:17
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I recently acquired via Ebay a 3 volt Surefire weapon light that mounts on a Browning Hi Power. No rail necessary, it mounts using the tail of the slide release on the right side of the gun, along with a setscrew that puts pressure on the trigger guard and eliminates "wobble". this particular light came out of Israel and was "Israeli Engineered" to better suit the preferences of the unit using it. It has had the tape switch removed and heplaced with a Toggle switch mounted along the left side of the gun, placed far enough back so that the thumb of either hand can be used to operate it. I had never seen a switching system like this and have been quite pleased with it thusfar. Now, since I have a light, Looks like I will need to put a hi power at the top of my list of guns to buy 
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01-16-2005, 18:32
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I like the way you think Air. Now it is a NECESSITY to get the pistol, otherwise it would be a waste of money to have the light. THat type thinking and logic will serve you well in a future marriage.
I was at a gunshow today, didn't see a Browning Hi Power but did see one of Frontsight's pump handle pistols (P7) for $835 (used).
Almost bought the HK just so I can get some of those custom made Fire Dragon Red grips for my wife.
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12-06-2005, 15:26
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I apologize for resurrecting an old thread, but I didn't see the sense in creating a new one when the pictures I want to reference are in this one.
I noticed the rail on TR's P13 is rather wide, about the same as the integral rails we are seeing these days on Kimbers, Springfields, Paras, etc. I have a 1993 era P14 that I would love to mount my new X200B on, but I saw the Dawson Precision rail in a recent magazine. It is significantly narrower, but appears to mount the X200 w/o a problem.
Has anyone seen these in person?
Go to this http://www.dawsonprecision.com/images/DPCatalog44.pdf link and on Page 15 you will see the narrow rail on the side.
Here is another view:
http://www3.mailordercentral.com/sho...tem=1&mitem=12
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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