07-12-2010, 15:42
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Based on your snarky reference to another thread, are we to conclude you believe the official position that Islam is a 'Great Religion that has been hijacked by extremists' and a 'Religion of Peace?' 
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Thank you.
Snarky - A witty mannerism, personality, or behavior that is a combination of sarcasm and cynicism. Usually accepted as a complimentary term. Snark is sometimes mistaken for a snotty or arrogant attitude.
Her snarky remarks had half the room on the floor laughing and the other half ready to walk out.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snarky
As far as Islam goes, I believe it is but another so-called religious movement based upon mythical tales and tenets which are unprovable except to those who are willing to abandon reason in their defense against all other such beliefs.
However, YMMV - and so it goes...
Richard's $.02
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07-12-2010, 16:51
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The United States is referred to as a Paper Tiger,maybe they are right,the way BHO is handling things what else can we be............. 
Snarky,Richard !!!!!!!.... Well thats a new one,I've seen Richard called many things on this forum but by god this is a new one...............
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07-12-2010, 17:07
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The United States is referred to as a Paper Tiger,maybe they are right,the way BHO is handling things what else can we be...
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The United States has been referred to as many things in its History - some with justification and many, such as this 'Paper Tiger' label, with little - if any - merit... except in the support of a politician's (secular or theological) ambitions. IMO - America should be above responding to such inflammatory provocation as if we were a mere schoolboy reacting childishly to the petty taunts of a classmate.
However, YMMV - and so it goes...
Richard's $.02
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07-12-2010, 18:18
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Maybe they just need a New Testament and a Reformation, too. I'm sure Glen Beck could hook them up with a few ghostwriters to ensure their tales (visions) are correctly related to the readers...seeing as how it's an ages olde tradition among such illiterati and all.
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Say what you will, he always supports the troops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li3yIgXKOlU
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07-12-2010, 20:26
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Say what you will, he always supports the troops.
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Yeah - like this supports the troops how...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_464482.html
India- Delta- 10- Tango.
And so it goes...
Richard
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07-12-2010, 21:20
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...IMHO they should SHFU and spend time and money assanating these cells they keep yelling about.
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I'm not volunteering for that job!
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07-12-2010, 21:36
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Richard,
I can see that Beck just pushes your buttons --- But, The Huffington Post is the most vile, pernicious web site on the Internet.
I don’t care what anyone’s politics are, this site trashes and smears with impunity..
Their character assignation and sliming of Sarah Palin and FAMILY was despicable and venomous. Regardless of how you view her politics, She is a women, a wife, a mother, and someone’s daughter. These malicious hate filled people should never be quoted as an authority / source on any issue except hate mongering. After reading the Huffington Post I feel “swarmy” , like I need a long hot shower to wash the excrement off. They are the “crack whores” of the blogosphere.
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07-12-2010, 21:37
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As for the sky falling they are crying wolf so much people will quit listning so that when they actually have someting to say no one will listen.
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I cannot help wondering if the purpose of such things is to divert the attention from other things.
Ever hear of MERS? Or a single word about a related Bankruptcy court hearing on May 20th of this year? No?
But it may mean that a great many foreclosures simply cannot happen. Which, in turn, affects individuals, the banking system, and investors around the world.
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Maybe the "sky is falling" approach is an attempt to get attention (or funding). But I cannot help wondering if it isn't a misdirection from other things.
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07-12-2010, 21:39
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Thank you.
Snarky - A witty mannerism, personality, or behavior that is a combination of sarcasm and cynicism. Usually accepted as a complimentary term. Snark is sometimes mistaken for a snotty or arrogant attitude.
Her snarky remarks had half the room on the floor laughing and the other half ready to walk out.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snarky
As far as Islam goes, I believe it is but another so-called religious movement based upon mythical tales and tenets which are unprovable except to those who are willing to abandon reason in their defense against all other such beliefs.
However, YMMV - and so it goes...
Richard's $.02 
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You didn't answer the question.
Let's compare today's islam to todays other "large" religions (billion plus "believers"). Key word being "today".
The question has islam been hijacked or is it just a "bad" religion?
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07-12-2010, 23:29
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It doesn't help, it would hurt the US military on every front of the war in Afghanistan, from the boots on the ground to public opinion. Honestly, the first time I saw that interview I cringed.
I don’t agree with everything that Beck says.
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie
A friend of mine that served made the comment one day that all these stars celebs and rich assholes always "support the troops" but very few if any of the loud mouths ever actually sign up and serve themselves. He can be a bit cynical sometimes, but he has a point.
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I used to talk to my neighbor Frank, who served in the Army Air Corps in WW2, about how actors, musicians, athletes, etc. would put their careers on hold to serve, he used to say “kid’s would lie about their age to go fight, times surely have changed.” (RIP buddy)
I’m not naive, I know some of these people are fake, but I also believe some truly care and the charities and support does help. I get angry and disgusted when I read stories about how Vietnam veterans were treated when they came home.
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07-13-2010, 04:36
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You didn't answer the question.
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The question was "... are we to conclude you believe the official position that Islam is a 'Great Religion that has been hijacked by extremists' and a 'Religion of Peace?'"
Based upon my personal experiences throughout my lifetime and studies, my answer is exactly what I believe about all of the so-called ' Great' religions - including Islam - and people can conclude what they may.
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I can see that Beck just pushes your buttons --- But, The Huffington Post is the most vile, pernicious web site on the Internet.
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The HuffPo - as with all such sources - must be ' mined' for the validity of its content and to not do so is to limit one's access to information. I read all sorts of sources in forming an opinion - the MSM, sites such as HuffPo and American Thinker and Salon, personal blogs such as VDH's Private Papers, YouTube, edu sites, postings here in PS.Com, etc.
In this instance, HuffPo was cited as a reference only in that it contained the video imbed of Glenn Beck on Fox News performing in a way which is typical of his ilk and I believe is the antithesis of ' supporting' our soldiers and nation. I cited HuffPo in another thread on Glenn Beck in that it contained the actual words and links to the on-going accusations being made against and by Mr Beck - the 'sources' of the arguments vs somebody else's interpolation of the debate.
My greatest beef with Mr Beck is that he is a charlatan of the worst sort, masquerading with great aplomb as a self-educated intellectual who people listen to and cite in the same manner as a Charles Krauthammer or a Victor Davis Hanson - and, to me, that makes Mr Beck a far more dangerous man than he and many others seem to have the ability to recognize.
However, YMMV.
Richard
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07-13-2010, 11:52
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The question was "... are we to conclude you believe the official position that Islam is a 'Great Religion that has been hijacked by extremists' and a 'Religion of Peace?'"
Based upon my personal experiences throughout my lifetime and studies, my answer is exactly what I believe about all of the so-called ' Great' religions - including Islam - and people can conclude what they may.
The HuffPo - as with all such sources - must be ' mined' for the validity of its content and to not do so is to limit one's access to information. I read all sorts of sources in forming an opinion - the MSM, sites such as HuffPo and American Thinker and Salon, personal blogs such as VDH's Private Papers, YouTube, edu sites, postings here in PS.Com, etc.
In this instance, HuffPo was cited as a reference only in that it contained the video imbed of Glenn Beck on Fox News performing in a way which is typical of his ilk and I believe is the antithesis of ' supporting' our soldiers and nation. I cited HuffPo in another thread on Glenn Beck in that it contained the actual words and links to the on-going accusations being made against and by Mr Beck - the 'sources' of the arguments vs somebody else's interpolation of the debate.
My greatest beef with Mr Beck is that he is a charlatan of the worst sort, masquerading with great aplomb as a self-educated intellectual who people listen to and cite in the same manner as a Charles Krauthammer or a Victor Davis Hanson - and, to me, that makes Mr Beck a far more dangerous man than he and many others seem to have the ability to recognize.
However, YMMV.
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You did notice I didn't use the word "great" you did.
I find it hard to believe you think the huffington post is actually worth reading. I'm sure you're aware of the owners background and many of the "writers".
In a world of left's, libs and socialist "progressives" I'm damn glad Glenn Beck is out there cheering for the "Right". There's a lot more "dangerous" individuals doing far more damage to this country than Glenn Beck, an undocumented, or let me make that a correct statement, a keynan that refuses to show his birth cert to the world, comes to mind.
Oh and speaking of the "undocumented" someone may want to send the WH an email stating that the keynan may not want to visit cause the Police in Arizona will soon be asking to show the very documents Hussain Obama refuses to show.....
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07-13-2010, 13:23
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"...are we to conclude you believe the official position that Islam is a 'Great Religion that has been hijacked by extremists' and a 'Religion of Peace?'"
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I find it hard to believe you think the huffington post is actually worth reading. I'm sure you're aware of the owners background and many of the "writers".
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I do not like Arianna Huffington, her condescendingly strident voice, or her political views - although I understand them. {One should watch the debate held between her and Victor Davis Hanson on American Imperialism at the Hauenstein Presidential Center if you're really looking to understand her views.  }
However - IMO The HuffPo is a valid source to see what the political 'left' is saying in America and why - whether one agrees with it or not - just as GB, RL, BO, etc are worth perusing to hear what the political 'right' is broadcasting and why - whether one agrees with them or not, too.
And so it goes...
Richard
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08-20-2010, 14:54
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Brillant! And this is why we're spending trillions of taxpayers money.
"Intelligence officials warn"...... allow me to inform the "intelligence officials" that the islamic morons have attempted an attack about every six months since 9/11.
Let's raise our "threat level" to "ultraviolet" and spend another $500 billion in useless TSA security measures. That will show the "mindless public" that the current administration is "attempting" to do something.
It's time to make this "war" (or as obama says "our disagreement") vicious.
I have a novel idea, let's make this fight so brutal that no one wishes to attack America. (I once thought (and was taught) that a standing "Professional" Army was a "deterrent".)
We deter absolutely nothing, terrorists, international drug cartels, rouge nations, nothing.
We have lost our "ferocity". Couple that with a spineless (bowing) administration and you have a recipe to deter, absolutely nothing.
Team Sergeant
Intelligence Officials Warn Attempted Al Qaeda Attack Months Away
The terrorist organization is deploying operatives to the United States to carry out new attacks from inside the country, CIA Director Leon Panetta told Congress
WASHINGTON -- Al Qaeda can be expected to attempt an attack on the United States in the next three to six months, senior U.S. intelligence officials told Congress Tuesday.
The terrorist organization is deploying operatives to the United States to carry out new attacks from inside the country, including "clean" recruits with a negligible trail of terrorist contacts, CIA Director Leon Panetta said. Al Qaeda is also inspiring homegrown extremists to trigger violence on their own, Panetta added.
The annual assessment of the nation's terror threats provided no startling new terror trends, but amplified growing concerns since the Christmas Day airline attack in Detroit that militants are growing harder to detect and moving more quickly in their plots.
"The biggest threat is not so much that we face an attack like 9/11. It is that Al Qaeda is adapting its methods in ways that oftentimes make it difficult to detect," Panetta told the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Al Qaeda is increasingly relying on new recruits with minimal training and simple devices to carry out attacks, the CIA chief said as part of the annual assessment of national threats provided to Congress by the top five U.S. intelligence officials.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...k-months-away/
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LOL, I quote myself.....
CIA Director Leon Panetta you're an idiot.
So are the morons that gave you the intel estimate. Morons working for morons that work for the "one" moron.
President Bush approach was to "Bring Justice" to the bad guys and we have in spades. Leon Panetta and the current administration can only cry WOLF and pray the public has a very short memory, how very left-wing progressive of you.
Hey I know let's place incompetent ultra-left wing idiots in all the three letter agencies. DHS, check, TSA, check, CIA, check....
2012 cannot come fast enough.
TS
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10-02-2011, 10:48
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We've now been at war for ten years against islamic terrorists.
Our government screams another attack is "imminent".
Let's spend another trillion dollars on homeland security.
Special Operations just killed two more spineless terrorists in Yemen and New York goes on "high alert".
Who are these sheeple, these terrorist "experts" that continue to cry wolf?
We need to stand down 85% of our focus on "terrorists" and allow the USA to return to business as normal. I don't know about you but I'm very tried of being treated as a "terrorist" everytime I fly, or want to visit the Statue of Liberty.
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Ben Franklin
We have traded our freedom for security...... it needs to end.
I would sure hate to explain our current national situation to Ben Franklin....
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