08-26-2009, 20:42
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Spell-check and gramer  ....Attention to detail will kill you in this job... Be safe and good luck........  |
That is what I get for using my iPhone. Sorry about that.
Thank you for the positive words Sir SF_BHT
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08-27-2009, 06:07
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Uh, what is gramer? 
Sorry, being a smart a** again.
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08-27-2009, 06:52
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Uh, what is gramer?
Sorry, being a smart a** again. |
That's OK Rick you are soooo Good at it..... 
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09-01-2009, 20:34
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We always went with who was best and/or who wanted to drive - didn't always work out as planned or desired - but sure made for some memorable moments. 
Richard's $.02
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09-02-2009, 05:08
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More than likeley your Team Daddy will tell you where to sit if that is REALLY what you want to do. Odds are there are vehicle seating charts with crossload plans and reaction to contact drills for GMVs, CH-47s, Hueys, Crashhawks, Zodiacs, you name it already sitting in your future team room and they all probably have your seat already picked out for you.. The bad news is that you will most likely not be handed the keys for some time because your team sergeant won't give a shit what you want to do. He isn't going to be too keen about revamping standing SOPs to accommodate the desires of a newbie.
As one of the first responses stated, it is important that the best guy be behind the wheel. In the current conflicts it is not a matter of "if" you will be engaged with hostile fire, but "when." The whole patrol has to be wired tight naturally, but when you get opened up on with a couple of PKMs, a half dozen AK-47s on spray-n-pray, or God forbid a vehicle rolls over an IED, things can get chaotic in a flash. Your instinctive decisions made in a pinch are what save team members' lives or cause total failure.
The last guy I want behind the wheel at that point is a FOG that just got his tab.
No offense, that's just how it is and you should get used to it.
Good luck & Be safe!
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09-02-2009, 08:41
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The last guy I want behind the wheel at that point is a FOG that just got his tab. No offense
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Ouch!  or some FOTB young guy that just got his tab and ain't had a civilian Driver's License for more then 2-4 years. So. . . maybe a guy with a little experience with the team; who has some good technical driving skills; and understands what is expected of him; and drives like he's told when he's told; and can anticipate what he's gonna be told; and do it without being told? I remember that guy! But, his age had nothing to do with it. None took. sorta
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09-02-2009, 12:54
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The last guy I want behind the wheel at that point is a FOG that just got his tab.
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Ouch! or some FOTB young guy that just got his tab and ain't had a civilian Driver's License for more then 2-4 years. So. . . maybe a guy with a little experience with the team; who has some good technical driving skills; and understands what is expected of him; and drives like he's told when he's told; and can anticipate what he's gonna be told; and do it without being told? I remember that guy! But, his age had nothing to do with it. None took. sorta
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I just assumed that my fellow QP meant "F NG" instead of "F OG"! It seemed to make more sense to my oft-befuddled brain.
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09-02-2009, 14:04
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That's OK Rick you are soooo Good at it..... |
Hell, why do you think I mentioned it? I actually caught one instead of making the mistake. 
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Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is knowing it is great on a hamburger but not so great sticking one up your ass.
Author - Richard.
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09-02-2009, 20:29
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Originally Posted by Richard
We always went with who was best and/or who wanted to drive - didn't always work out as planned or desired - but sure made for some memorable moments.
Richard's $.02 |
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Originally Posted by rltipton
More than likeley your Team Daddy will tell you where to sit if that is REALLY what you want to do. Odds are there are vehicle seating charts with crossload plans and reaction to contact drills for GMVs, CH-47s, Hueys, Crashhawks, Zodiacs, you name it already sitting in your future team room and they all probably have your seat already picked out for you.. The bad news is that you will most likely not be handed the keys for some time because your team sergeant won't give a shit what you want to do. He isn't going to be too keen about revamping standing SOPs to accommodate the desires of a newbie.
As one of the first responses stated, it is important that the best guy be behind the wheel. In the current conflicts it is not a matter of "if" you will be engaged with hostile fire, but "when." The whole patrol has to be wired tight naturally, but when you get opened up on with a couple of PKMs, a half dozen AK-47s on spray-n-pray, or God forbid a vehicle rolls over an IED, things can get chaotic in a flash. Your instinctive decisions made in a pinch are what save team members' lives or cause total failure.
The last guy I want behind the wheel at that point is a FOG that just got his tab.
No offense, that's just how it is and you should get used to it.
Good luck & Be safe!
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Originally Posted by Dozer523
Ouch! or some FOTB young guy that just got his tab and ain't had a civilian Driver's License for more then 2-4 years. So. . . maybe a guy with a little experience with the team; who has some good technical driving skills; and understands what is expected of him; and drives like he's told when he's told; and can anticipate what he's gonna be told; and do it without being told? I remember that guy! But, his age had nothing to do with it. None took. sorta
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Thank you again for the answers QP's.
I will be signing some papers at the first of next week after I pick up some papers from college needed by the Army.
Been reading the books mentioned earlier and I thank you for the recommendations. They are a great read!
Also hitting the training hard.
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09-02-2009, 20:52
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Well sorry for the FOG thing, but it happens to all of us sooner or later.
I distinctly remember breaking up a "conversation" about this exact subject between a 35 yo E6 fresh from the Q-course and a 22 yo E6 with 3 years team time and 3 combat deployments under his belt. The 35 yo sat his ass in the rear with the 240B.
I suppose the advice I should have given Speedgod is to show up and ask where your team daddy wants you instead of telling him where you want to be.
Good luck & be safe.
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09-02-2009, 21:05
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Well sorry for the FOG thing, but it happens to all of us sooner or later.
I distinctly remember breaking up a "conversation" about this exact subject between a 35 yo E6 fresh from the Q-course and a 22 yo E6 with 3 years team time and 3 combat deployments under his belt. The 35 yo sat his ass in the rear with the 240B.
I suppose the advice I should have given Speedgod is to show up and ask where your team daddy wants you instead of telling him where you want to be.
Good luck & be safe.
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Sir rltipton,
Thank you again for your advice.
I would hope to know my place and not ask a CO where I want to be, but where they want me to be. When I make it, I will be happy to do what it is I told. I may not like it, but I know what I am getting into and know my long term goals will take time. BTW, I understand your reference to the age.
Cheers
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09-03-2009, 08:45
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Originally Posted by Speedgod
Sir rltipton,
Thank you again for your advice.
I would hope to know my place and not ask a CO where I want to be, but where they want me to be. When I make it, I will be happy to do what it is I told. I may not like it, but I know what I am getting into and know my long term goals will take time. BTW, I understand your reference to the age.
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It is about the team, and your teammates.
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09-03-2009, 10:28
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If you ever get far enough for it to matter, it isn't about you.
It is about the team, and your teammates.
TR
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Sir TR,
Thank you again for your comments. I will see you in Pineland.
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09-03-2009, 11:01
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Sir TR,
Thank you again for your comments. I will see you in Pineland.
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As long as he doesn't see you Make sure you aren't easily identifiable as the one sulking because you "didn't get a window seat".
Ps (Speeddog) Now would be a good time to stop posting on this thread.
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09-03-2009, 20:19
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Driver? Driver??
A. Eyes on 25 meter target son.
B. It's not a 'job".
After reading all your posts I think you want SF very much. I'm not sure why. You need to do some soul searching imho. Good luck to you.
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