02-14-2007, 13:33
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Great American
It is true that Paul is a great American. I have worked with him for a few years now, and can say he does the right thing every time, even when no one is watching.
I took the class this weekend and was humbled by the "standards." I used new Viper M-16 shorty. Built by Greg Leaf at the M 16 Clinic. It performed better than I could have imagined.
I even had a decent group at 300, which was completely shocking to me. The standards and techniques Paul teaches will undoubtedly improve all of our scores, and hopefully prove to be effective the next time I go down range.
It is an honor to know him. Keep up the good work Paul.
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02-14-2007, 13:36
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Easy there sir, I believe that Mr Mugwump was forced to decline the offer as the particular weapon was not on the,"up and up".
Good times,
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No, it was fully transferrable and above board. Illinois is not a "machine gun state" and it just wouldn't work out. The old gent was former Wehrmacht, captured on the western front and sent to do farm work in Wisconsin. He was never repatriated -- he married the farmer's daughter.  I introduced him to my Uncle Ray, who was a Marine, and they became fast friends. Ray always said he had more in common with him than all the American 4Fs he ran into.
CPTAUSRET Sir, I wish I'd known you when it was available! The old guy would have heartily approved of you as its new owner. You two would have had a lot to talk about. As it turns out I helped him sell it -- he donated the money to his fire department (her was a long time volunteer firefighter).
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02-14-2007, 14:26
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I took the class this weekend and was humbled by the "standards." I used new Viper M-16 shorty. Built by Greg Leaf at the M 16 Clinic. It performed better than I could have imagined.
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Good to see you here, Doc. BTW, shooting next to that shorty did a great job of clearing my sinuses. Thanks! 
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02-15-2007, 10:44
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thanks for the interesting AAR, guys.
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02-15-2007, 10:49
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Can't ever have too much good CAS stacked, up waiting their turn at a gun run!  |
The only time you can have too much CAS is if you are standing at the bar buying drinks for them.
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02-15-2007, 11:11
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The only time you can have too much CAS is if you are standing at the bar buying drinks for them.
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DAMN! Good one!
Spoken like a "True Believer", one who has been there!
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02-21-2007, 12:07
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Great review, THX
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10-05-2008, 09:49
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Reading this thread got me to check out the CSAT website. Took a look around and discovered Paul Howe's article page on the site, offering opinions and thoughts about LE topics and Shooting Tactics. After reading almost everyone of them I went to amazon.com and ordered his book. Big fan of the combat mindset he preaches.
I have a few other officers reading the articles in their downtime.....very positive responses.
Now if I can just make it down to TX for a class.....tricky part will be convincing my training coordinator that the trip and cost is justified.
Wish me luck
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10-05-2008, 14:42
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Reading this thread got me to check out the CSAT website. Took a look around and discovered Paul Howe's article page on the site, offering opinions and thoughts about LE topics and Shooting Tactics. After reading almost everyone of them I went to amazon.com and ordered his book. Big fan of the combat mindset he preaches.
I have a few other officers reading the articles in their downtime.....very positive responses.
Now if I can just make it down to TX for a class.....tricky part will be convincing my training coordinator that the trip and cost is justified.
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There is not a better Law Enforcement instructor in the United States than Paul Howe, none.
If you cannot attend classified Special Operations shooting schools, Paul is the next best thing.
Save your pennnies and go to his classes. It might save your life.
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10-05-2008, 20:05
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Save your pennnies and go to his classes. It might save your life.
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+1 I took two classes from him as a civilian and look forward to taking more from him when I get back to TX. His book is a must read and gets bought for every young leader I meet.
Blake, seems like forever ago I saw you at that course.
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10-05-2008, 22:22
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+1 I took two classes from him as a civilian and look forward to taking more from him when I get back to TX. His book is a must read and gets bought for every young leader I meet.
Blake, seems like forever ago I saw you at that course.
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Been a Bit I suppose.
Probably felt like longer ago than it really was.
Good times,
Blake
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10-06-2008, 10:40
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FYI... Paul does travel an train quite a bit up north and on the east coast. (better weather for training in the hot months IIRC). Nackanowhere is bawls hot in August.
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10-06-2008, 18:08
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Great review, I would love to get a chance to take some of his classes.
I have been looking to take some rifle/carbine classes in between training.
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10-28-2008, 14:47
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Great review JATX. Sorry that I couldn't join you, but I had a class of my own (Magpul Dynamics AAR in another thread). Hope all is well with you and yours brother.
Paul Howe is definately on my short training list.
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10-28-2008, 17:14
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Hey Archangel, this was an AAR for a class from awhile back. I was supposed to be in his Instructor course last week, but had to miss it due to a training injury. Oh well, maybe you could join me in the spring...thanks for the Magpul pics btw.
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