04-20-2004, 16:50
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Looks like a standard Dual Zippered Cotton Jump Suit. Three Ring Release on a Pig-Rig that jettisons the Main Canopy when the Reserve Ripcord is pulled. That stuff came out in the late '80s to early 90's.
Black Jumpsuit Probably a Golden Knight !!
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04-20-2004, 17:00
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I guess my WAG was somewhat on the money?
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04-20-2004, 17:36
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To Major?
What's the unauthorized chest patch?
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Major...Actually the patch was authorized, A Co 101st Aviation was the first unit of the 101st to see combat since WW2, the unit arrived in VN in early 65. Just before this pic was taken the (101st) colors were returned to Ft Campbell, and we became the 336th Aviation Co:
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04-20-2004, 17:44
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Great pics Cap, thanks for sharing.
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04-20-2004, 17:46
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As you wish saca.
I don't know why we didn't have more mustaches. I still can't grow one, but some of the other guys could. We just didn't for some reason. Kicked back PCs were definitely one of our trade marks. I modeled mine after larry Dring (I didn't know him, but wish i had, saw it in a pic.) LOL
Got the drive on rag from a Jerry Shriver pic.
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All the lessons those guys had to teach, and NDD is getting fashion tips....
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04-20-2004, 17:47
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I doubt that anyone will guess this one, but it goes with the history lesson. I flew gunships (T-Birds, 101st), with this gentleman, anyone recognize the face? As a 2 star he eventually commanded the 101st:
Terry
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04-20-2004, 18:18
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thanks for the thread
ndd and tr thanks for the thread and everyone else for keeping it going. it has been a long time since i have heard a more spirited (although misguided) discussion.
now let's look at the sky guy....
abn board tested ram air parachutes in fall 1983 with what team as wind dummies.... oh thats right it was oda-754
the result was the eventual adoption of the rig you see here. brought to group in 86. used often and hard by who... again oda-754 (had the only two halo jm's in group at the time)
7th group team in early 86 did a stand-off over ocean water to football pitch on nw corner of granada (post bang, bang).. yep, oda-754
in 87 spent a week in pensacola again playing sky dudes where a young medic got his cornea lacerated by the bus driver goggles he could no be talked out of wearing.. hence the blind man stories of oda-754
now see what you have made me do... i have degenerated into a poorly remembered history of a team long ago forgotten....
let me get back to my original point... the black suit is heavy cotton and had a double zipper from ankle to neck. (still have one but it seems to have shrunken as the zippers won't come together). very functional and was the same worn by the knights of that era.
the o2 equip seems to be the updated xx version with the rear mounted bail-out. any helmet could be fitted with mounts and commo for a case or two of beer at pope's o2 shop. a more telling helmet would be the super grey individually molded af model in the next pic because the first two ever in group were on.... let me see.... what team was it..... maybe 754.... here i go again...
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04-20-2004, 18:20
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ndd and tr... i think i have a copy of the retirement pic... conversation piece??
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04-20-2004, 18:23
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ndd and tr... i think i have a copy of the retirement pic... conversation piece??
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Absolutely!
TR
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04-20-2004, 18:27
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ndd and tr... i think i have a copy of the retirement pic... conversation piece??
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Absolutely. If I remember right, the cornea scratch might have been because of a certain Senior Commo guy and the TS, playing in free-fall? LOL That shit hurt for days.
You can tell the blind man story if you want, you and Slinky are accomplices.
The infamous Abn Board!
"Today, we're going to jump and keep adding weight until it fails."
Me - "Until what fails?"
"MT-1XX"
Me - "What's that?"
"The parachute."
Me - "We're gonna do WHAT!"
Whole Team - "Shut up and GET IT ON CHERRY!"
LOL
Think Slinky tells his kids about that bundle chasing him all over the sky?
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He knows only The Cause.
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04-20-2004, 18:34
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Bus driver goggles? Chic, I'm sure... 
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04-20-2004, 18:42
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Bus driver goggles? Chic, I'm sure...
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Let's review....
We have an underaged leg, critiquing the uniform preferences of two MFF qualified senior members of one of the finest SF ODAs in the Army.
Right...That's not "chic" that's "cheeky", I believe.
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04-20-2004, 19:11
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Comment respectfully withdrawn.
My apologies.
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04-20-2004, 19:32
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I think I may know who it is... TR's pic that is.
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04-21-2004, 19:48
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That steely eyed killer with the helmet and mask is me.
Not sure about the other pic that was posted.
Just wanted to end the criticism of the fact that I had not been pictured here.
Now I have.
TR
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