State, local and jurisdictional-level actions related to gun-control (Post-Newtown)

[Dusty]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...-Mental-Health

After failing to pass any gun control at the federal level during 2013, the White House has signaled its intention to lay off guns for a time and focus on mental health.

Just days before the first anniversary of the heinous crime at Sandy Hook Elementary, Fox News reports Vice President Joe Biden is presenting arguments for the mental health focus. The administration believes there are things they can do in this arena "to prevent future shootings."

During a December 10th meeting with "parents of Sandy Hook victims" Biden said: "The fact that less than half of children and adults with diagnosable mental health problems receive the treatment they need is unacceptable."

He said nothing about "assault weapons," expanded background checks, "high capacity" magazines, or other gun control measures. Nor did he rule out another gun control push by the administration in 2014 or beyond.

For now, however, it appears gun control has gone the way of "Cash for Clunkers."

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[Richard]

FYI.

Richard

State Gun Laws Enacted in the Year Since Newtown
NYT, 10 Dec 2013

About 1,500 state gun bills have been introduced since the Newtown massacre. 178 passed at least one chamber of a state legislature. 109 have become law.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2..._20131211&_r=0

[tonyz]

The incremental movement toward registration...and what follows...continues...at least in some jurisdictions...

Federal judge upholds New York’s ban on assault weapons, rejects 7-round magazine limit

Buffalo News.com
By Phil Fairbanks | News Staff Reporter | @PhilFairbanksBN | Google+
on December 31, 2013 - 1:41 PM, updated December 31, 2013 at 1:42 PM

New York’s new gun control law is constitutional and should remain largely in effect, a federal judge in Buffalo ruled today.

Chief U.S. District Judge William M. Skretny said the law, a response to the Sandy Hook shootings that killed 20 children and six adults, is not a violation of the Second Amendment.

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http://www.buffalonews.com/city-regi...limit-20131231

Copy of the decision at link below:

http://kingofallwebs.com/Skretny/Skretny-Decision.pdf

ETA:
from the cited opinion relative to ARs :

"New York has presented considerable evidence that its regulation of these weapons is substantially related to the achievement of an important governmental interest. Accordingly, the Act does not violate the Second Amendment in this respect."

A few years later...not really a giant leap in logic to extrapolate regarding "legal" firearms...

"New York has presented considerable evidence that its registration of these weapons is substantially related to the achievement of an important governmental interest. Accordingly, the Act does not violate the Second Amendment in this respect."

[tonyz]

“No Firearm May Be Sold, Acquired or Otherwise Transferred Within [Chicago], Except Through Inheritance”

The Volokh Conspiracy
by Eugene Volokh on January 6, 2014 6:14 pm in Guns

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"That’s what Chicago Municipal Code § 8-20-100 provides (with some exceptions for sales to police officers, and loans at shooting ranges). Today’s Illinois Ass’n of Firearms Retailers v. City of Chicago (N.D. Ill. Jan. 6, 2014) holds that this violates the Second Amendment (some paragraph breaks added):"

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http://www.volokh.com/2014/01/06/fir...t-inheritance/

[tonyz]

SC Gov. Haley says she backs carrying firearms without permits, training
The State
BY JAMIE SELF
jself@thestate.com
February 11, 2014 Updated 2 hours ago

Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2014/02/11/3...#storylink=cpy

S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley said Tuesday that she backs a proposal that would make it legal for most South Carolinians to carry guns – concealed or in the open – without a permit or the training that the state currently requires.

Haley made her comments after she signed into law a bill that allows gun owners with licenses to carry concealed weapons into businesses that serve alcohol – restaurants and bars – as long as they do not drink alcohol and the businesses did not bar guns.

[Badger52]

Link to online article.

Wyoming House passes bill to allow guns in schools

CHEYENNE, Wyo. – The Wyoming House has advanced a bill that would permit local school boards to allow teachers and other school workers who hold concealed carry permits to carry guns at schools.

The House voted 54-to-6 on Thursday in favor of a bill sponsored by Cheyenne Republican John Eklund.

Eklund says he believes the state needs to act on the issue urgently. He says there's little if any law enforcement in many rural areas and says school workers need to be ready to protect themselves and their students.

Rep. Kendell Kroeker, an Evansville Republican, spoke against the bill. He's a co-sponsor of another pending bill that would allow anyone who holds a concealed carry permit, not only school employees, to bring guns onto school and college campuses.

[Badger52]

No, not another Federalist paper but NY'ers should take note anyway.

A plan by police in Buffalo, N.Y., to begin confiscating the firearms of legal gun owners within days of their deaths is drawing fire from Second Amendment advocates.

The plan is legal under a longstanding, but rarely enforced state law, but gun rights advocates say, with apologies to onetime NRA spokesman Charlton Heston, it is tantamount to prying firearms - some of which may have substantial monetary or sentimental value - from the cold, dead hands of law-abiding citizens.

"They're quick to say they're going to take the guns," said Tom King, president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association. "But they don't tell you the law doesn't apply to long guns, or that these families can sell [their loved one's] pistol or apply to keep it."

King said enforcing the state law is the latest example of authorities targeting law-abiding gun owners, while doing little to secure the streets.

Pro-gun websites took Derrenda's comments as an affront to the Second Amendment, with BearingArms.com claiming authorities could "use the relative's pistol permit as the proverbial camel's nose under the tent to ge[/t at every firearm they can, hoping to remove all the firearms from the home while the family is at their most vulnerable."

LINK to the story from Friday.

[Badger52]

Buyer's remorse is a bitter pill ain't it Maryland?

An ambitious plan by Maryland to catalog the “fingerprint” of every gun sold in the state -- making dealers fire a shot and send in the spent casing -- is being scrapped, literally.

State authorities have conceded that the bullet ID program, enacted in 2000, cost $5 million, was plagued by technical problems and did not solve a single crime. Now, the 300,000 shell casings, one from every handgun sold in the state since the law took effect, will now be sold for scrap metal.

"Obviously, I'm disappointed," former Maryland Gov. Parris Glendening, whose administration pushed for the database, told the Baltimore Sun. "It's a little unfortunate, in that logic and common sense suggest that it would be a good crime-fighting tool."

Freakin' doorknobs. Everytime one of those quislings utters "common sense" they need to be slapped upside the head with a metro phone directory.

[Badger52]

Put in this thread because, well, it's already here.

So here we are, 5 years later. The grabbers keep trotting out the same stuff. (Cue Einstein's comment on insanity.)

And, in the wake of Parkland, here is a draft from Oregon, a beautiful state IF (like WA and CA) you take a good boning knife to it, just along the left-hand side on the map. And apparently they've passed their "Boyfriend Loophole" bill.

[G2squared]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Put in this thread because, well, it's already here.

So here we are, 5 years later. The grabbers keep trotting out the same stuff. (Cue Einstein's comment on insanity.)

And, in the wake of Parkland, here is a draft from Oregon, a beautiful state IF (like WA and CA) you take a good boning knife to it, just along the left-hand side on the map. And apparently they've passed their "Boyfriend Loophole" bill.

It was stupid that the "boyfriend loophole" existed in the first place. People who don't understand what they are writing into law, writing laws. It's not a bad law in concept, it's the interpretation that allows for problems.

The draft you are referring to is the scary one. Though it is only in draft form now and doesn't yet have the signatures from citizens to go to the voters yet, it only requires a 1000 signatures to get on the ballot. And in Portlandia alone, they probably won't have a tough time getting the 1000. Population over 1million.
The part about registering and keeping a registry is particularly interesting. Oregon has had a law that specifically requires the state police to delete information about background checks, I think it's after a specific amount of time. Wonder if they actually have kept up on that?
The definitions they use for this are pretty ridiculous and wreak of Frankenstein's ineptitude on firearms.
IMO, I believe this one will fail to get enough votes to pass. It goes too far for that kind of support from voters. When laws start talking about registering what's not, turning in, selling or confiscations, people get worried and won't support it.

G2

[Badger52]

Originally Posted by G2squared

When laws start talking about registering what's not, turning in, selling or confiscations, people get worried and won't support it.

G2

Hope you're right but people have voted in draconian laws on themselves before (and even voted for Presidents) simply so they could pat their egos on the back and say they were doing something "historic."

[G2squared]

Originally Posted by Badger52

Hope you're right but people have voted in draconian laws on themselves before (and even voted for Presidents) simply so they could pat their egos on the back and say they were doing something "historic."

True.
I am keeping an eye on this. I did a bit more checking and found that this was submitted by a local church leader who is known for some hardline beliefs and that may have a pretty negative impact on his attempts at anything political locally as Portlandias are notably non-believers and anti anything directly related to religion other than what gets them a day off work like Christmas.
More to come. . .
G2

[tonyz]

Mass civil disobedience in NJ.

Politicians have shown time and again a willingness to pass feel good laws that do not actually address the mentally ill or criminals at issue.

It appears that the people of NJ have responded to the politicians.

FOIA Request Confirms Zero Standard Capacity Magazines Turned In to NJ State Police

Ammoland Inc. Posted on April 16, 2019 by John Crump

New Jersey –-(Ammoland.com)-There are an estimated one million-gun owners with standard capacity magazines (10+ rounds) in the State of New Jersey, bringing an estimated number of magazines holding more than ten rounds to around ten million. Some estimates even have this number being higher.

When New Jersey passed a law making these magazines illegal in 2018, there was a debate on whether the gun owners of the state would hand in their magazines. When the law went into effect at the end of last year, New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy and Attorney General Gurbir Grewal celebrated it as a victory against gun rights advocates.

AmmoLand news reached out to departments across the Garden State and the New Jersey State Police to see how many magazines were turned in for destruction. Local departments were quick to confirm that they did not receive any magazines turned in by the citizens of New Jersey. The State Police would not comment on the record on the number of magazines turned in by residents.

Off the record, State Police sources told AmmoLand no magazines were turned in. We filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to get the official answer from State Police officials. Our first request went unanswered, so we sent another, then another, and so on until we finally received a response from the State Police.

SGT Kristina Pados of the New Jersey State Police responded to our FOIA request. She confirmed what our sources inside the New Jersey Police told us. The gun owners of New Jersey have surrendered no magazines.

However, she did state that local departments might have them.

AmmoLand reached out to local police departments across New Jersey and have not been able to find a single magazine turned over to the authorities. It would seem like the gun owners of New Jersey have decided to ignore the law most likely because it is unenforceable.

As previously reported New Jersey residents have been openly mocking Democrat Governor Phil Murphy on message boards and Facebook groups. This revelation feeds into the narrative that the new law was just a ploy to please the Governor's anti-gun base.

According to sources inside the New Jersey law enforcement communities, they still have not received any guidance on how to enforce the magazine ban. New Jersey Attorney General Gurbir Grewal's office still gives the evasive response of “not discussing law enforcement tactics” when pressed on why no guidance has been given to the State Police.

No law enforcement agency spoken to has charged anyone with having a standard capacity magazine. Short of going door to door there is no way of pro-actively enforcing the law. Law enforcement has not and are not planning on using this tactic.

When the law was going into effect, some agencies considered enforcing the ban as a secondary charge. Police would add on the charge of having an illegal magazine if a crime was committed with the magazine, but we have been unable to find anyone charged even under this circumstance.

Gov. Murphy has not commented on the failure of the new law. Last December the Governor's office referred us to the New Jersey Attorney General’s office. This time we shared the FOIA response from the State Police with them, but they did not return our request for comment at the time of publication.

https://www.ammoland.com/2019/04/foi...#axzz5lRzqFPAF

[Box]

"Governor Phil Murphy and Attorney General Gurbir Grewal celebrated it as a victory against gun rights"


...isn't it odd that the States "Leadership" openly celebrates a victory against individual citizens rights -

So - step one - civil disobedience against oppressive governance
Step Two -STOP FUCKING RE-ELECTING THEM

[mark46th]

Without the Second Amendment to protect them, all the other amendments are irrelevant.
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