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Old 11-08-2005, 15:39   #16
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He learned his language today - Korean. This means he would be assigned to First Group at Fort Lewis, WA.
I know how disappointed you must be and you have my deepest sympathies. But the important thing now is to be supportive. Just keep reminding him that the support groups need good people too and that everyone can't go to 7th Group, no matter how unfair that may seem. Even Roger Clemens pitched a game or two in the minors.
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Old 11-08-2005, 16:16   #17
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I know how disappointed you must be and you have my deepest sympathies. But the important thing now is to be supportive. Just keep reminding him that the support groups need good people too and that everyone can't go to 7th Group, no matter how unfair that may seem. Even Roger Clemens pitched a game or two in the minors.

Your good-natured ribbing reminds me of a great college football rivalry. I don't have enough knowledge about Special Forces groups to discern if your comments are, in any way based in fact, but good competition never hurt anyone. And, if my son has to start in "the minors" with Special Forces, at least I know he's in the game. Better to look back as an old man and say that he was with the finest group of soldiers in the World than to wonder what might have been. I appreciate all you guys- no matter what group you're with.

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Old 11-08-2005, 16:23   #18
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Also, they go to SERE immediatly after Phase II or SUT so language is the last thing they do.
One slight correction. Not everyone goes to SERE after Phase 2. It depends on how soon a new Phase 3 class is starting after you finish Phase 2. Phase 2 is now modular with start dates every week ( or every 2 weeks? I'm not sure). But there are still only four Phase 3 classes a year.

So, if you finish Phase 2 and the next Phase 3 class doesn't start for 2 and a half months, then you'll be going to SERE. If you finish Phase 2 and the next Phase 3 class is starting in a week or two weeks you'll go to Phase 3 and leave SERE for later.
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Old 11-08-2005, 16:41   #19
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I ate out with the ROC SF for 30days!! No your eyes will not be slanted eating that much rice.

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I ate out with the ROC SF for 30days!! No your eyes will not be slanted eating that much rice.

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Your good-natured ribbing reminds me of a great college football rivalry. I don't have enough knowledge about Special Forces groups to discern if your comments are, in any way based in fact, but good competition never hurt anyone. And, if my son has to start in "the minors" with Special Forces, at least I know he's in the game. Better to look back as an old man and say that he was with the finest group of soldiers in the World than to wonder what might have been. I appreciate all you guys- no matter what group you're with.

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It really is all in fun...those of us from 7th GP try not to make the rest of the participants live in our shadow ALL of the time.

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Old 11-08-2005, 21:23   #22
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It really is all in fun...those of us from 7th GP try not to make the rest of the participants live in our shadow ALL of the time.

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Yea, the small shadow that it is, in that of the 5th !!!
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Old 11-08-2005, 21:53   #23
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Yea, the small shadow that it is, in that of the 5th !!!
Current events Brother, not Ancient History...
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Old 11-08-2005, 22:01   #24
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Where are the defenders of First Group?

I'm getting nervous now. My son's eventual group is being lambasted on the forum and no one has stepped forward to defend them. C'mon guys, step forward and get in a few shots..... pleeeeaaaasssse!!

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Current events Brother, not Ancient History...
Who was on Horseback in the 'Stan ?!?!?!
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Old 11-08-2005, 22:09   #26
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It would also be interesting to see a comparison of CIBs and CMBs by Group over the years !!

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Old 11-08-2005, 22:49   #27
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I'm getting nervous now. My son's eventual group is being lambasted on the forum and no one has stepped forward to defend them. C'mon guys, step forward and get in a few shots..... pleeeeaaaasssse!!

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Old 11-08-2005, 22:59   #28
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The best parts about 7th Gp - A huge AOR that people actually want to visit, the only time you worry about sand is on a tour, the genuine potential for a social life with the locals, no "pig in a poke" problems figuring out what's under the burkha, no rude noises from PA systems on every minaret at ungodly hours to disturb sleep/hangovers, generally acceptable levels of personal hygiene, (did I mention many of the women are attractive and usually friendly?), there actually are five-star hotels to hang out in on the weekends, (did I mention the locals - even the G's - like their weekends?), etc. etc. And even though we're sending people to the sandbox to cover for the poor ba****ds that are stuck there, our guys can look forward to missions that don't always involve Bn. level deployments to h*ll holes every time they leave home station. Need I say more? (Yeah, I know - none of that stuff is as true as it used to be, even in Latin America. The times they do be a changing.) Peregrino

PS - 1st Gp guys seem to like their AOR too!
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Old 11-09-2005, 00:38   #29
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I'm not SF, but I was a Korean Linguist for 8 years.

Language school can be fun, but language school isn't easy.

My class started with 33 students and 16 finished. Of those 16 who finished, 5 of us got a 2/2/2 on our DLPT coming out of DLI.

That isn't meant to be discouraging. There is just a lot to juggle. 7 hrs in the class room, anywhere from 2-6 hrs of homework a night... even on the light days you are trying to choke down 25+ vocab words per day. Got to get in PT, try to stay above just a maintenance level. Got all the other mandatory Army stuff too...

The patented GackMan system was to study like a hermit for the first 4 months. Eat, sleep, study, PT, repeat. After 4 months I started to relax but by then I had a solid foundation and system in place to succeed.


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It would also be interesting to see a comparison of CIBs and CMBs by Group over the years !!

Later Brother !!
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Has 7th grp recieved any? I know they drink alot, and do a lot of bragging, but that's about it. I say we make a new badge for 1st and 7th. the IASCB ( I Almost Saw Combat Badge)

And don't worry 18X DAD, SWC West, needs good people too.
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