10-23-2005, 13:59
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I'm not a fan of the M9, so if I actually was to have a choice I would choose the springfield XD9. Simple like a Glock, but with the grip cant of a 1911. I purchased one when springfield first started selling them and its a fantastic pistol. very accurate.
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10-23-2005, 15:04
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I'd probably kill myself.
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10-23-2005, 17:53
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Browning HP
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11-04-2005, 15:03
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Browning Hi-Power.
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11-04-2005, 17:28
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Ditto......
9mm- A .45 set to stun..
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11-04-2005, 21:23
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I never really understood the whole 9mm thing. I mean think about it, 9mm is nothing more than a 38 Special in a smaller case.
Wonder Nine, as in I Wonder why anyone uses the dam thing.
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11-04-2005, 21:35
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I never really understood the whole 9mm thing. I mean think about it, 9mm is nothing more than a 38 Special in a smaller case.
Wonder Nine, as in I Wonder why anyone uses the dam thing. 
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A whole bunch of Germans did. In fact the 9 mm parabellum was not only standard pistol round in Europe but also for SMG's, i.e. MP 42 and Brit Sten, and Sterling. We had several silenced Sterlings in SOG.
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11-05-2005, 11:07
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A whole bunch of Germans did. In fact the 9 mm parabellum was not only standard pistol round in Europe but also for SMG's, i.e. MP 42 and Brit Sten, and Sterling. We had several silenced Sterlings in SOG.
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QRQ, growing up after WWII, I heard a lot of the German stuff, and the think was if it was German is was excellent stuff. For a 9mm, I was thinking of a UZI carbine. One nine may be ineffective but a whole swarm of them would be better. I really agree with TS quote, 9mm is 45 set on stun. Another QP said a pistol was something to fight with untilQRQ and lksteve, thanks. I check a Army site, "Center for Military History". There is no mention of the change but it seemed to have changed around the RVN period. There is another cite too, both on the History, citations. The Army site had some interesting stats, seems prior to WWII receiving the Medal and still being alive to receive it was very common, after WWII, that was not the case. In my Battalion we had three Marines who received the MOH, two from my company. They were all KIAed.
On Fox news, they said only about 4% of the coverage of the war is positive. I think the media is doing a GREAT disservice to the American People. (where I am not sure of the quote from here on) "Until you get a real gun, ie; Rifle". General opinion Pistols were for the non-combatants, even our Doc preferred the M 16. Carrying a pistol ment not carrying something else.
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11-05-2005, 13:44
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QRQ, growing up after WWII, I heard a lot of the German stuff, and the think was if it was German is was excellent stuff. For a 9mm, I was thinking of a UZI carbine. One nine may be ineffective but a whole swarm of them would be better. I really agree with TS quote, 9mm is 45 set on stun. Another QP said a pistol was something to fight with untilQRQ and lksteve, thanks. I check a Army site, "Center for Military History". There is no mention of the change but it seemed to have changed around the RVN period. There is another cite too, both on the History, citations. The Army site had some interesting stats, seems prior to WWII receiving the Medal and still being alive to receive it was very common, after WWII, that was not the case. In my Battalion we had three Marines who received the MOH, two from my company. They were all KIAed.
On Fox news, they said only about 4% of the coverage of the war is positive. I think the media is doing a GREAT disservice to the American People. (where I am not sure of the quote from here on) "Until you get a real gun, ie; Rifle". General opinion Pistols were for the non-combatants, even our Doc preferred the M 16. Carrying a pistol ment not carrying something else.
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11-05-2005, 14:41
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Think maybe he was "smokin" to much at Joe's?
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11-05-2005, 16:15
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Think maybe he was "smokin" to much at Joe's? 
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LOL
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that.
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11-05-2005, 16:23
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LR and Joe............ I gotta agree with you. When I hit submit, somehow my puter move me to another thread and it combined two text into one. Don't know what happened. It should have been:
"QRQ, growing up after WWII, I heard a lot of the German stuff, and the think was if it was German is was excellent stuff. For a 9mm, I was thinking of a UZI carbine. One nine may be ineffective but a whole swarm of them would be better. I really agree with TS quote, 9mm is 45 set on stun. Another QP said a pistol was something to fight with (where I am not sure of the quote from here on) "Until you get a real gun, ie; Rifle". General opinion in RVN Pistols were for the non-combatants, even our Doc preferred the M 16. Carrying a pistol ment not carrying something else."
I really don't know what happened, But I have to check what my wife has been putting in my coffee. Maybe that was not Oregeno???
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11-05-2005, 16:27
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Dang, I could not edit the above for better reading, When I hit Save, it would kick me off to the sign in screen...........
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11-06-2005, 08:54
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QRQ, growing up after WWII, I heard a lot of the German stuff, and the think was if it was German is was excellent stuff. For a 9mm, I was thinking of a UZI carbine. One nine may be ineffective but a whole swarm of them would be better. I really agree with TS quote, 9mm is 45 set on stun. Another QP said a pistol was something to fight with (where I am not sure of the quote from here on) "Until you get a real gun, ie; Rifle". General opinion in RVN Pistols were for the non-combatants, even our Doc preferred the M 16. Carrying a pistol ment not carrying something else."
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Hollis - You been reading my posts too much. Only I am allowed to have that many typos, misspelled words and dropped words in one sentence! Hell, I think you even made a few up!!!
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11-06-2005, 22:26
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Hollis - You been reading my posts too much. Only I am allowed to have that many typos, misspelled words and dropped words in one sentence! Hell, I think you even made a few up!!! 
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LR we Marines where thought to Improvise, I did not realize it would be so confusing for others/
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