09-11-2025, 18:30
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We are lost if we do not stand hard against the violent left. Truly lost.
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09-11-2025, 18:49
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Rest in peace, Charlie.
May God watch over your family.
Charlie knew we were already in a civil war.
He did it his best to wage it in a non-kinetic manner.
He was too effective.
Hearts and minds are still the prize, or at least those hearts and minds which can still be reached.
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09-11-2025, 19:05
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RIP Charlie Kirk.
Another American who exercised free speech and was killed for it.
We can only hope to honor him by using that right ourselves
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09-11-2025, 19:07
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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen
Rest in peace, Charlie.
May God watch over your family.
Charlie knew we were already in a civil war.
He did it his best to wage it in a non-kinetic manner.
He was too effective.
Hearts and minds are still the prize, or at least those hearts and minds which can still be reached.
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IF it goes kinetic we will win but at a terrible price.
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09-12-2025, 08:57
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As horrible and tragic as this is; This is an interesting perspective / breakdown of the impact as a ricochet off of his body armor. Medically sound analysis as well.
As soon as I saw the unedited footage I felt it a non-survivable - not only from the neck wound but his immediate posturing post impact indicating a brainstem hit / injury.
Body Armor Analysis
May his family find peace...
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09-12-2025, 11:05
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Originally Posted by PRB
I am terribly saddened by this, more so that my norm....I've watched many, many, Kirk vids of his debates on campus. He was brilliant and fair. Articulate and informed. A true free speech patriot.
I will miss his intellect and his mission greatly.
I am getting very tired of the violent left.
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I am surprised by the manner and degree that the assassination of Charlie Kirk has affected me. I have not considered myself to be a man of Faith, until now that is. This assassination lit a fire in my soul. We are at a watershed moment with the very foundation of our society under attack by the left. They fired the first shot in the battle, and by default, it is now a kinetic one.
One of our Brothers, (I am sorry I don't remember who with certainty, but Roy Burkhart comes to mind.) wrote a letter, admonishing the left, to stop pushing, lest they awaken the sleeping warriors! I believe we have been awakened, may God help you!
Trapper John sends
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09-12-2025, 13:21
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Originally Posted by PRB
I am terribly saddened by this, more so that my norm....I've watched many, many, Kirk vids of his debates on campus. He was brilliant and fair. Articulate and informed. A true free speech patriot.
I will miss his intellect and his mission greatly.
I am getting very tired of the violent left.
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my sentiments exactly. so many vids of him inviting those who didn't like him or disagreed with him to talk. he was called names and cursed and he alwas engaged them with logic. In hindsight, what happened to him was inevitable. I'm sure his wife knew and probably told him at least once.
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09-12-2025, 17:52
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There is plenty of information floating around about the shooter, much of it inaccurate.
He was raised in the small town of Kanab, UT, and his family moved to Washington, UT some years ago.
My route is in Fredonia, AZ, the border town with Kanab.
I have family here and a reliable reasonably direct information source concerning recent events with regard to the shooter.
We’ll see how accurate it turns out to be.
His family is quite conservative.
He was probably raised as a Mormon.
He likely registered Republican at 18.
His father isn’t law enforcement, the neighbor is.
He is not a tranny, but his boyfriend is transitioning.
The gun was probably his.
He was supposedly giggling maniacally when being arrested and booked.
Again, we’ll see how accurate locally sourced information is.
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09-13-2025, 02:51
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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen
There is plenty of information floating around about the shooter, much of it inaccurate.
He was raised in the small town of Kanab, UT, and his family moved to Washington, UT some years ago.
My route is in Fredonia, AZ, the border town with Kanab.
I have family here and a reliable reasonably direct information source concerning recent events with regard to the shooter.
We’ll see how accurate it turns out to be.
His family is quite conservative.
He was probably raised as a Mormon.
He likely registered Republican at 18.
His father isn’t law enforcement, the neighbor is.
He is not a tranny, but his boyfriend is transitioning.
The gun was probably his.
He was supposedly giggling maniacally when being arrested and booked.
Again, we’ll see how accurate locally sourced information is.
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People wonder why I say “I’m no more than 2 phone calls from knowing everyone”…… This community has more depth than the Marians Trench.
Thanks for the intel G-C
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09-13-2025, 09:52
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Twitter is starting to confirm the story that the shooter was living with his transgender partner.
That’s the “roommate”.
Again, we’ll see if it’s true.
The shooter contacted his “roommate” on a discord server asking him to retrieve the hidden rifle.
That’s how law enforcement found the shooter.
The “roommate” is cooperating fully.
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09-13-2025, 16:46
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09-13-2025, 18:47
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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen
His family is quite conservative.
He was probably raised as a Mormon.
He likely registered Republican at 18.
His father isn’t law enforcement, the neighbor is.
He is not a tranny, but his boyfriend is transitioning.
The gun was probably his.
He was supposedly giggling maniacally when being arrested and booked.
Again, we’ll see how accurate locally sourced information is.
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-The family has been confirmed to be conservative.
-Confirmed he was raised Mormon.
-Not registered as either Republican or Democrat
(this was admitted to be speculative from my source)
-The father is confirmed not to be law enforcement.
-The law enforcement person turned out to be a friend/minister, not necessarily the neighbor.
-Transitioning boyfriend confirmed.
-No word on the gun, but the specific information I received was that the rifle was given to him by his grandfather when he was still a minor.
(Though this may be in reference to a different gun).
-No confirmation concerning his behavior post-arrest.
I am curious as to why no information concerning the gun’s origin has been released and why it took an investigative journalist to break the story about the boyfriend.
During the immediate aftermath, many internet sleuths discovered all sorts of posts demonstrating possible prior knowledge of the attack.
Much of this was associated with the trans community.
Supposedly, the boyfriend tipped about the rifle and has been singing.
How deep does this rabbit hole go?
FWIW, there was a high profile sniper incident in the area when he would’ve been 7 years old (murder of Kane county deputy Brian Harris).
Hard to say how a child processes that stuff.
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Waiting for the perfect moment is a fruitless endeavor.
Make a decision, and then make it the right one through your actions.
"Whoever watches the wind will not plant; whoever looks at the clouds will not reap." -Ecclesiastes 11:4 (NIV)
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09-13-2025, 19:26
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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen
-The family has been confirmed to be conservative.
-Confirmed he was raised Mormon.
-Not registered as either Republican or Democrat
(this was admitted to be speculative from my source)
-The father is confirmed not to be law enforcement.
-The law enforcement person turned out to be a friend/minister, not necessarily the neighbor.
-Transitioning boyfriend confirmed.
-No word on the gun, but the specific information I received was that the rifle was given to him by his grandfather when he was still a minor.
(Though this may be in reference to a different gun).
-No confirmation concerning his behavior post-arrest.
I am curious as to why no information concerning the gun’s origin has been released and why it took an investigative journalist to break the story about the boyfriend.
During the immediate aftermath, many internet sleuths discovered all sorts of posts demonstrating possible prior knowledge of the attack.
Much of this was associated with the trans community.
Supposedly, the boyfriend tipped about the rifle and has been singing.
How deep does this rabbit hole go?
FWIW, there was a high profile sniper incident in the area when he would’ve been 7 years old (murder of Kane county deputy Brian Harris).
Hard to say how a child processes that stuff.
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Ubiquitous .30-06 hunting rifle. Plenty of places to.shoot on Utah. Great father son activity. Probably living a secret life struggling with being gay but further fukked up with his AP deep into the tranny thing. Ripe for radicalization online and not ever having had a reality check about actions and consequences.
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09-14-2025, 05:00
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I'm not a conspiracy man. So a person who has some experience shooting, could shoot a sitting man in the neck at 200 ? yards? Also down slope angle under a cover from the tent.
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09-14-2025, 07:19
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I'm not a conspiracy man. So a person who has some experience shooting, could shoot a sitting man in the neck at 200 ? yards? Also down slope angle under a cover from the tent.
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I would watch Eagles body armor video above. When I watched the shooting on other video's I was not convinced at first that he got shot with a 30-06 rifle directly in the neck with no exit wound. This caused me to think 2nd shooter with a varmint type rifle in .22 cal.. I now changed my opinion after watching the body armor video and other videos taken from different angles.
My opinion changed because I think Mr dumb ass Antifa assassin, Not knowing you need to hold under at steep angles, was going for a Heart shot and the bullet impacted high and clipped the top of the body armor. This split the bullet into 1-2 fragments one entering the neck with a large mushroomed piece of lead severing Charlie's artery. I am making the assumption he was using standard hunting ammunition off the store shelf.
I blame dumb luck and a perfect storm of security lapse's for this tragic death.
The FBI needs to come forward and not be such Douches with information... Squash all speculation and conspiracy now they have caught this guy.
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