03-03-2004, 14:39
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03-03-2004, 14:52
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Sure, worst that can happen is we call you a girl with a man's gu...Oh wait.
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03-03-2004, 15:15
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03-03-2004, 16:41
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I think Dr.Doom has got it right. That's how it was explained to me when I joined the group in 1966.
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03-03-2004, 18:10
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Quote:
Originally posted by DoctorDoom
LOL... well with that encouragement here goes:
Based on my very limited research, 3rd Group was established with personnel from the 1st, 5th, 7th, and Training Groups of 1st Special Forces. The motto would seem to reflect that lineage.
Is that an accurate appreciation of the meaning behind the motto?
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You forgot 10th Group, but that is understandable, we do it too.
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03-03-2004, 20:15
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I think Dr.Doom has got it right. That's how it was explained to me when I joined the group in 1966.
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That would be correct as I understand it Col.
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03-04-2004, 00:56
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03-04-2004, 08:01
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Pretty close.
Quote:
Originally posted by DoctorDoom
LOL... well with that encouragement here goes:
Based on my very limited research, 3rd Group was established with personnel from the 1st, 5th, 7th, and Training Groups of 1st Special Forces. The motto would seem to reflect that lineage.
Is that an accurate appreciation of the meaning behind the motto?
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Way back in the days that may have been true however, when 3rd Group was re-established it was stood up by guys from 3rd Bn 5thSFG(A) and became 1st Bn 3rd SFG(A)...there was only one battalion for a while.
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03-04-2004, 19:12
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You forgot 10th Group, but that is understandable, we do it too.
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Actually TR, 10th did not contribute to 3rd as they were in Germany. The colors of the 3rd Group flash indicate the groups involved in the establishment of the Group. The original flash showed a blending of htese groups into one, but alas, some PC idiot thought it resembled a nazi swastika and had it removed.
Old memories, may be off abit but ColMurph can confirm or deny.
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03-04-2004, 19:19
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I'll take your word for it, LR.
Would have thought that they would have gotten someone from 10th as part of their diversity program.
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03-04-2004, 19:25
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You have to remember when the 3d Gp. was activated we didn't have that COO/PC shit in the Army. The young ladies were still called WAC's!!
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03-04-2004, 20:16
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WACs' Barracks
And a target rich environment it was too!
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03-15-2004, 15:45
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3rd Special Forces Group (Airborne) 1st Special Forces
5 December 1963 Activated Fort Bragg, NC
18 February 1964 Personnel Transferred from the 1st, 7th, 5th and Training Groups (Airborne) to make up the 3rd SF Group, giving the Group the Colors for its Flash
Yellow from the 1st Special Forces Group (Airborne)
Red from the 7th Special Forces Group (Airborne)
Black from the 5th Special Forces Group (Airborne)
White from Special Forces Training Group Group (Airborne)
The 10th had been made up and moved to Germany from the 77th SF, The remaining made up the 7th.
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03-15-2004, 16:11
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03-15-2004, 16:52
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I have no need to know...just curious
Where do the colors of the other Flashes come from? I.E. why is 1st yellow, 7th red,...
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