02-15-2005, 13:30
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Knowing this is one of my first posts, I will introduce myself. I am an 18C trainee awaiting Phase III, normally I would lurk but I feel I have experienced the wrath of posting the wrong things on an SF forum, so I am going to give SupportSoldier some advice.
SupportSoldier, just judging from what you've been posting you might want to quit. When I was awaiting PLDC/BNCOC I suffered from diahrea(sp?) of the mouth and made the mistake of downgrading the 82nd. That has nothing to do with you, but it made PLDC and Phase II a lot harder than it would have been normally. Getting to the point, I don't think you realize how small of a community SF is, everyone knows someone else than can make your life a living hell. The Quiet Professionals on this board have extreme influence and I would recommend not pissing them off.
Having said that, "Moving out and drawing fire"
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02-15-2005, 14:02
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Originally Posted by Raven
Knowing this is one of my first posts, I will introduce myself. I am an 18C trainee awaiting Phase III, normally I would lurk but I feel I have experienced the wrath of posting the wrong things on an SF forum, so I am going to give SupportSoldier some advice.
SupportSoldier, just judging from what you've been posting you might want to quit. When I was awaiting PLDC/BNCOC I suffered from diahrea(sp?) of the mouth and made the mistake of downgrading the 82nd. That has nothing to do with you, but it made PLDC and Phase II a lot harder than it would have been normally. Getting to the point, I don't think you realize how small of a community SF is, everyone knows someone else than can make your life a living hell. The Quiet Professionals on this board have extreme influence and I would recommend not pissing them off.
Having said that, "Moving out and drawing fire"
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Raven:
Do I remember you from another board? Your story sounds familiar...
Terry
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02-15-2005, 16:26
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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giggling.......
i don't mean it in a girlie way it was the kind of laugh that happens when you're next to guy in your squad and the Drill Sergeant is in his face and you're trying to hold it in . I know my days are not numbered. I'm gonna make it. It's a doggy dogg world, but I'll take the comment like a grain of salt. All my life I've proven Haters and hypocrites wrong so i'm good.......
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"Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It knows that it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning a lion wakes up. it knows that it must run faster than the fastest gazelle or it will starve to death. It doesn't matter if you are a lion or a gazelle: WHEN THE SUN COMES UP YOU HAD BETTER BE RUNNING!"
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02-15-2005, 16:28
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I feel really stupid, but what is G2ing; did we have it in SFTG, and did I miss a really good deal?
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I'm not exactly sure what G2ing might encompass either SP5IC. Never heard it mentioned when I went through SFTG. I don't think we missed out on any good deal, though. Just went where we were told and did what we had to.
I've always tended to embrace the "KISS principal" myself. 
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02-15-2005, 16:32
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Roger.
Yes, i know how small the community first hand. I've been at Fort Bragg for about 5 years. I know everybody there knows somebody and i don't mean to piss any of the quiet professionals, hell i've idolized them since, I first saw the John Wayne movie about them. i can tell you the duration of Barry Sadler's Ballad to the Green Beret is 2 minutes and 19 seconds. It's like this everyone comes from diff't walks of life and the way i seem to you i might seem to another but you take how you must. I'll just carry my cross and keep on going........
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"Every morning in Africa, a gazelle wakes up. It knows that it must run faster than the fastest lion or it will be killed. Every morning a lion wakes up. it knows that it must run faster than the fastest gazelle or it will starve to death. It doesn't matter if you are a lion or a gazelle: WHEN THE SUN COMES UP YOU HAD BETTER BE RUNNING!"
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02-15-2005, 16:44
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For those who are unfamiliar with the term, G2ing the course is trying to gain an unfair advantage by gathering intel about what the surprises in the course might be.
An example would be trying to determine the length of a run or ruck in advance when the point is to see if people put out their max effort for as long as they can.
Another would be to try and determine what scenarios might be encountered and what successful solutions might have worked in the past, when the scenario is intended to determine how well candidates think on their feet when confronted with a challenge.
This would more commonly be called cheating, or violating the Honor Code.
HTH.
TR
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02-15-2005, 16:56
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FYI, the phrase you were looking for was "its a dog-eat-dog" world, implying little mercy and viciousness. I suspect a 'doggy dog world' involves a great deal of bass and cameos in movies.
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02-15-2005, 17:06
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CPT,
I was subscribed for a time to SOCNET, you probably heard it there. I repeatedly monkey-stomped my dick, but my screw up was quickly brought to attention and corrected.
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"I looked up at the bunker in front of me and saw a khaki-uniformed NVA with pith helmet, chest web gear, green Gata boots and an AK, Type 56, and no other identifying insignia. Then I shot him."
--Sergeant Tony "Fast Eddie" Andersen--
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02-15-2005, 17:31
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TR,
My father got me in contact with a retired SF op that he works with, and he was giving me general advice and things to look forward to. One thing he mentioned was after a particularly rough bit of PT or whatever they were making the candidates do, they went into the barracks and told everyone they had to be at some statue in some unbelievable amount of time for how tired everyone was. He said some guys quit right then and there, and that he and one of his buddies were the first ones out, and about a kilometer down the road they were picked up by a truck waiting for them. Are things like that what you're referring to?
I guess I'll introduce myself now as well, I'm a 20 year old college student in Northern Virginia, looking to enlist with an 18x contract in the summer. Just trying to absorb as much wisdom as I can from all you BTDTs. Thank you for your service 
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02-15-2005, 17:34
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TR,
My father got me in contact with a retired SF op that he works with, and he was giving me general advice and things to look forward to. One thing he mentioned was after a particularly rough bit of PT or whatever they were making the candidates do, they went into the barracks and told everyone they had to be at some statue in some unbelievable amount of time for how tired everyone was. He said some guys quit right then and there, and that he and one of his buddies were the first ones out, and about a kilometer down the road they were picked up by a truck waiting for them. Are things like that what you're referring to?
I guess I'll introduce myself now as well, I'm a 20 year old college student in Northern Virginia, looking to enlist with an 18x contract in the summer. Just trying to absorb as much wisdom as I can from all you BTDTs. Thank you for your service |
Damn, you know the exact program!
We sure couldn't fool you.
Come to Mackall and pick up your beret anytime.
TR
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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02-15-2005, 17:44
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Damn, you know the exact program!
We sure couldn't fool you.
Come to Mackall and pick up your beret anytime.
TR
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Alright cool, let me get a uniform first, I don't have anything to wear that will go with the beret. Can my friend get one too he looks really good in green 
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02-15-2005, 18:25
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I'm a 20 year old college student
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Yum Yum Chomp Chomp
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
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02-15-2005, 18:29
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Alright cool, let me get a uniform first, I don't have anything to wear that will go with the beret. Can my friend get one too he looks really good in green |
You'd better tread lightly there stud. You keep running your suck at my Boss, your stay on this board will be about as long as your stay at Mackall
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Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause.
Still want to quit?
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02-15-2005, 19:15
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Originally Posted by NousDefionsDoc
You'd better tread lightly there stud. You keep running your suck at my Boss, your stay on this board will be about as long as your stay at Mackall
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I was just kidding around, no disrespect was intended.
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02-15-2005, 19:42
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Originally Posted by Swindleous
Alright cool, let me get a uniform first, I don't have anything to wear that will go with the beret. Can my friend get one too he looks really good in green |
No worries.
PM your names so that we can have your uniforms ready.
TR
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910
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