03-22-2016, 17:38
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Originally Posted by longrange1947
Hope you have a good place to shoot it and one hell of a scope on it.
Oh yes, and damn deep pockets. If you really want that toy go for it. There are a number of very good rifles out there and depends on whether you want an out of the box or a custom gun.
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What do you think about the out-of-the-box versions?
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03-22-2016, 20:41
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Remington multi caliber is interesting for keeping the same ergonomics but they are starting to have QC issues. Sako made a great one in their TRG series.
There are a lot of good rifles out there. I h ave been away form that arena for a while and am not current on the latest and greatest.
Get a good scope as well or you will be pissing in the wind.
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03-22-2016, 21:45
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 Food taster?!?! I thought that last Quarter Pounder he brought me was a little off...
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03-23-2016, 04:43
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What are your thoughts on the Savage 338 Laupa? I am not planning on getting one but wondering what your thoughts were on it for the money. I ran across some guys a cople weeks ago in the Olympic National Forest that had one.
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Bump. I've been looking at a Savage in 308 or 300wm (I don't think there is a single range in FL that could justify a .338 or bigger) was wondering about the opinions from the long range pros.
And for the novice long range shooter, I know that glass is important but what kind of reticle would be good for a noob?
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03-23-2016, 21:11
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03-23-2016, 21:26
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The Savage is a real good rifle. It has had a bad name because it is inexpensive, but out of the box it is a very accurate gun. Add to that many of the accessory houses are fully supporting the Savage rifles now. I used to recommend the Savage to guys just starting out as it was cheap and accurate and let them know if they wanted to go on in shooting.
I have no experience with the 338 but I have shot an out of the box Savage 308 Tactical, forget the number designation, but it out shot another guys Remy.
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03-24-2016, 05:32
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Very nice round, but here it is hellishly expensive to buy off the shelf ammo. Even the brass is crazy expensive for reloads.
As for rifles, I am biased toward the Sako-Tikka stable and Remington, but the Savage seems irritatingly accurate, despite its cheapo reputation.
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03-24-2016, 07:54
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Guy, I also favor those two, but there are others out there that significant players. Problem is that I have been away from the 338 long enough that I am hard pressed to give a yah or nay on them.
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03-24-2016, 08:10
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Originally Posted by Peregrino
Needs the SureFire suppressor with the muzzle brake adaptor to make it complete. Otherwise, I'm with TS and TR.
My .02 - Have you looked at a .300 WSM? The cartridge has a number of practical advantages over 300WM while being virtually identical to 300WM WRT ballistics (think ~1200M MER and capable of taking anything in NA with some overkill depending on bullet selection). You can put together a Rem 700 in an MDT chassis with quality glass for 1/2 the price and get a lot more pleasure shooting it. Just a suggestion.
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That .300 short mag is a fantastic round, especially if you're going to build a rifle to use for hunting/carrying up big mountains. Hell on elk.
I just dropped my 7mm mag off to have the action worked and a new barrel put on. I can't trade or sell the gun, as my dad left it to me and he used it to shoot a mechanical deer (long story). But, if I did, it would be for a .300 wsm.
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03-24-2016, 08:33
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Re Re-loading for the .338LM...
100 pc of Lapua Magnum unprimed brass- $289.00
1 pound of Retumbo powder- $30.00
50ea Sierra 300gr MatchKing bullets- $40-50.00 OR
50 Barnes 285gr TSX bullets- $50.00
Magnum Large Rifle Primers- A few cents apiece
I load 92 grains of Retumbo with both bullets. A pound of powder goes away in a hurry. I have the rifle zeroed at 600 yards.
Supposedly, the Lapua brass is good for up to 10 reloads. I have just gone through it for the first time, so we shall see. I tried Privi Partisan brass with poor results. A lot of split cases and blown primers.
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03-24-2016, 17:08
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That .300 short mag is a fantastic round, especially if you're going to build a rifle to use for hunting/carrying up big mountains. Hell on elk.
I just dropped my 7mm mag off to have the action worked and a new barrel put on. I can't trade or sell the gun, as my dad left it to me and he used it to shoot a mechanical deer (long story). But, if I did, it would be for a .300 wsm.
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I don't understand the reasoning behind the .300 WSR, why the need to change perfection? A shorter bolt stroke? I don't get it. Then again I never understood the reasoning behind the 6.8.
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03-24-2016, 17:32
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Re Re-loading for the .338LM...
100 pc of Lapua Magnum unprimed brass- $289.00
1 pound of Retumbo powder- $30.00
50ea Sierra 300gr MatchKing bullets- $40-50.00 OR
50 Barnes 285gr TSX bullets- $50.00
Magnum Large Rifle Primers- A few cents apiece
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So about $4.20/round?
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03-24-2016, 18:46
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie
The theory was a short fat case is supposed to be new accurate than the same amount of powder in a longer slimmer case. Supposedly me consistent ignition. I never was a believer but others swear it is the gospel.
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Was this like the .338 Norma vs .338 LM to allow for longer bullet in magazine length loading?
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03-24-2016, 20:40
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I think the difference between .300 win mag and .300 WSM is much the same discussion as choosing between a .308 and a 30-06. You can get a lighter rifle and similar ligher-bullet ballistics with a .308, while the 30-06 can handle large bullets better.
IIRC, all of the Colorado guides where we hunted last carried .300 win mags, and they swore by them.
Here's a nerdy look at pros and cons of the short mag:
http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Know...rt+Magnum.html
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03-24-2016, 21:01
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The difference between more efficient ignition (less powder for the same velocity), not having to screw with headspacing a belted magnum, and the advantages of a short action (lighter, stronger/more rigid, faster lock time, and more/less expensive accessories).
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